Hi Adam
How come I cannot find myself in the list on the very first page? thanks
sam
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QUOTE(SamMooo @ September 25 2007, 06:01 PM) 
Hi Adam
How come I cannot find myself in the list on the very first page? thanks
How come I cannot find myself in the list on the very first page? thanks
First of all, your list of links isn't a fully-formatted HTML page. It's only the include file. Remember, you must have an HTML page to put the list into. There are instructions on our Web site -- see the link in my .sig below.
If you're using the PHP script, it should update automatically. I have no way of telling if you're using the script or if you have the list saved on your site. I would have to assume you're not using the PHP script since it's not updating by itself. Again, the instructions tell you everything you need to know about how to get it to work.
Thanks Adam, let me try again tonight
I'd like to join the party too!
<li><a href="http://www.envphotography.com" title="Edmonton Wedding and Portrait Photographers<" target="_blank">ENV Photography - Edmonton Wedding and Portrait Photographers</strong></a></li>
and I've added the link page already... thanks!
<li><a href="http://www.envphotography.com" title="Edmonton Wedding and Portrait Photographers<" target="_blank">ENV Photography - Edmonton Wedding and Portrait Photographers</strong></a></li>
and I've added the link page already... thanks!
Hi Adam,
I think I fixed it, please let me know, sorry about the trouble.
Sam
I think I fixed it, please let me know, sorry about the trouble.
Sam
QUOTE(Adam Squier @ September 17 2007, 06:26 PM)
OK, I've added everyone (I'm pretty sure).
Just a quick FYI -- there will soon be a shakeup in the list exchange, with requirements and everything.
Here are a couple, but there will be a more "formal" message coming soon with all the info and an explanation for the requirements (we're not just being jerks):
If you're on the link exchange and don't have everyone on your list, you'll be removed. We'll probably require everyone to use the php script (or use DHTML or whatever you want) to use the include file.
The list of OSP links on your site must be a 2nd level page from the home page (or splash page if you're using one). That means you need a link on the home page that goes to a page with the OSP links on it. Not a link that goes to a page with a link to the OSP links. Make sense? This will help with the search engine rankings.
You must subscribe to the Link Exchange mailing list for announcements.
If you want to be added to the link exchange, you must first set up the page on your site using the include file. Once that's verified, you'll be added to the list. If you're having difficulties getting the links working, just ask. We often can help. If not, you'll have to talk to your Web designer or hosting company. I know this can be difficult for some people depending on how your site is set up.
Your link to the list of OSP links must be humanly-navigable. That is, if I go to your site, I need to be able to follow the link to the page. The link on the home page must be visible. We may also require specific text for the link.
Just a quick FYI -- there will soon be a shakeup in the list exchange, with requirements and everything.
Here are a couple, but there will be a more "formal" message coming soon with all the info and an explanation for the requirements (we're not just being jerks):If you're on the link exchange and don't have everyone on your list, you'll be removed. We'll probably require everyone to use the php script (or use DHTML or whatever you want) to use the include file.
The list of OSP links on your site must be a 2nd level page from the home page (or splash page if you're using one). That means you need a link on the home page that goes to a page with the OSP links on it. Not a link that goes to a page with a link to the OSP links. Make sense? This will help with the search engine rankings.
You must subscribe to the Link Exchange mailing list for announcements.
If you want to be added to the link exchange, you must first set up the page on your site using the include file. Once that's verified, you'll be added to the list. If you're having difficulties getting the links working, just ask. We often can help. If not, you'll have to talk to your Web designer or hosting company. I know this can be difficult for some people depending on how your site is set up.
Your link to the list of OSP links must be humanly-navigable. That is, if I go to your site, I need to be able to follow the link to the page. The link on the home page must be visible. We may also require specific text for the link.
Adam,
My front page design uses a replacable div section which, unless they have flash, contains fairly complete text contents which google and yahoo do index. This allows fairly good SEO and information for those on mobile or older non-flash capable computers - yet leaves a clean initial screen for those with an updated flash player.
It's humanly-navigable to OSP if one disables the shockwave flash add-on. If flash 9+ IS available, though, the OSP link is not visable.
Google's crawler IS indexing this page and is indexing the text of the original non-flash div section, as you can see in the attached screenshots. I've also verfied that Yahoo is picking this up correctly.
Is this considered outside the rules? More importantly, does this configuration ensure that the links are benefiting others on the exchange? If needed, I can put it back at the bottom of the flash enabled site.
I'm wondering if a google/yahoo search for "OSP Links" site:xxx.com would be faster for ensuring that rules are being followed than trying to find the link on everyone's front page.
QUOTE(Steve Madden @ September 26 2007, 01:28 PM)
Adam,
My front page design uses a replacable div section which, unless they have flash, contains fairly complete text contents which google and yahoo do index. This allows fairly good SEO and information for those on mobile or older non-flash capable computers - yet leaves a clean initial screen for those with an updated flash player.
It's humanly-navigable to OSP if one disables the shockwave flash add-on. If flash 9+ IS available, though, the OSP link is not visable.
Google's crawler IS indexing this page and is indexing the text of the original non-flash div section, as you can see in the attached screenshots. I've also verfied that Yahoo is picking this up correctly.
Is this considered outside the rules? More importantly, does this configuration ensure that the links are benefiting others on the exchange? If needed, I can put it back at the bottom of the flash enabled site.
I'm wondering if a google/yahoo search for "OSP Links" site:xxx.com would be faster for ensuring that rules are being followed than trying to find the link on everyone's front page.
My front page design uses a replacable div section which, unless they have flash, contains fairly complete text contents which google and yahoo do index. This allows fairly good SEO and information for those on mobile or older non-flash capable computers - yet leaves a clean initial screen for those with an updated flash player.
It's humanly-navigable to OSP if one disables the shockwave flash add-on. If flash 9+ IS available, though, the OSP link is not visable.
Google's crawler IS indexing this page and is indexing the text of the original non-flash div section, as you can see in the attached screenshots. I've also verfied that Yahoo is picking this up correctly.
Is this considered outside the rules? More importantly, does this configuration ensure that the links are benefiting others on the exchange? If needed, I can put it back at the bottom of the flash enabled site.
I'm wondering if a google/yahoo search for "OSP Links" site:xxx.com would be faster for ensuring that rules are being followed than trying to find the link on everyone's front page.
As long as I can find it (if by turning off shockwave, that's OK). What we don't want is separate pages specifically for search engines. We're trying to get rid of anything that done to specifically target search engines, and that humans would never be able to see. You're pushing the limit, but I think you're fine.
edit: that was Adam
Edit: Still Adam. I just looked at your site and I saw the OSP link. And we have Flash installed. Your page is fine.
Hi Adam and Lynn,
am I doing mind correctly this time? Please verify, thank you.
am I doing mind correctly this time? Please verify, thank you.
QUOTE(SamMooo @ September 27 2007, 12:42 PM)
Hi Adam and Lynn,
am I doing mind correctly this time? Please verify, thank you.
am I doing mind correctly this time? Please verify, thank you.
You're not showing all of the listing Sam. Your best bet is to follow the directions in the links in Adam's signature to use the include file from his site to automatically update the page. That way you don't have to do any work on this, or come back to this thread to check up on it periodically to make sure you've got all the people who are participating.
Since the first post in this thread is no longer editable by me, it does not show people who have joined up since page 7 or 8 for instance.
sorry about the trobles guys, I will look into that again tonight. thanks Chris
updated for ya.
thanks Matt.
The list on the very first post of this thread is now current as of today. But, the automated include file that Adam has set up is MUCH easier, and will be a required part of the exchange soon, we think.
The list on the very first post of this thread is now current as of today. But, the automated include file that Adam has set up is MUCH easier, and will be a required part of the exchange soon, we think.
Hi Chris,
I already fixed the site kind of... please let me know if I am still missing out something. I did follow the link in Adams sig. However if I am still not getting it right, please let me know, thanks again.
And thanks Matt
I already fixed the site kind of... please let me know if I am still missing out something. I did follow the link in Adams sig. However if I am still not getting it right, please let me know, thanks again.
And thanks Matt
QUOTE(SamMooo @ September 28 2007, 09:03 AM)
Hi Chris,
I already fixed the site kind of... please let me know if I am still missing out something. I did follow the link in Adams sig. However if I am still not getting it right, please let me know, thanks again.
And thanks Matt
I already fixed the site kind of... please let me know if I am still missing out something. I did follow the link in Adams sig. However if I am still not getting it right, please let me know, thanks again.
And thanks Matt
You're missing the opening <HTML> tags and the other heading tags. The easiest way to do this is to take another page on your site, erase everything between the <body> tags, add some headings, insert the PHP script, and then save as osplinks.php
There's no way for me to tell if you're using the PHP script, as it just looks like a regular HTML page to the browser. I could change the include file temporarily and then check your site, but I'm not able to access it right now -- I'm on a different system. It's a <gasp> Windows computer.
Thanks again Adam, will get it done later today after the shoot
QUOTE(Chris Uglanica @ September 28 2007, 12:14 AM)
...the automated include file that Adam has set up is MUCH easier, and will be a required part of the exchange soon, we think.
I don't know if I'll be able to use the automated script on my site but updating the links page manually has been a snap for me. I usually just copy and paste the new stuff over from Adam's "links/osplinks.inc" page.
QUOTE(Andy A. @ September 28 2007, 10:08 AM)
I don't know if I'll be able to use the automated script on my site but updating the links page manually has been a snap for me. I usually just copy and paste the new stuff over from Adam's "links/osplinks.inc" page.
Andy, if you're able to use .php pages/scripts on your site, then you'll have no problem with the automated include dealio. It's easy peasy stuff.
Hi,
This is the error message I am getting....
OSP Links:
Warning: include() [function.include]: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include(http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc) [function.include]: failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include() [function.include]: Failed opening 'http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
please help.. again!
This is the error message I am getting....
OSP Links:
Warning: include() [function.include]: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include(http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc) [function.include]: failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include() [function.include]: Failed opening 'http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
please help.. again!
QUOTE(SamMooo @ September 28 2007, 08:37 PM)
Hi,
This is the error message I am getting....
OSP Links:
Warning: include() [function.include]: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include(http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc) [function.include]: failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include() [function.include]: Failed opening 'http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
please help.. again!
This is the error message I am getting....
OSP Links:
Warning: include() [function.include]: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include(http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc) [function.include]: failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include() [function.include]: Failed opening 'http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
please help.. again!Hey Sam. Adam will have a better answer for ya, but I am thinking that you won't be able to follow along via the autmoated include script, and will have to do your updates manually. No worries though, just be sure to keep up on adding them.
Hi Chris,
I believe I already have the most updated link on my site, thanks again! Did you go to the bridal show yesterday?
I believe I already have the most updated link on my site, thanks again! Did you go to the bridal show yesterday?
QUOTE(SamMooo @ September 28 2007, 10:37 PM)
Hi,
This is the error message I am getting....
OSP Links:
Warning: include() [function.include]: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include(http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc) [function.include]: failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include() [function.include]: Failed opening 'http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
please help.. again!
This is the error message I am getting....
OSP Links:
Warning: include() [function.include]: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include(http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc) [function.include]: failed to open stream: no suitable wrapper could be found in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
Warning: include() [function.include]: Failed opening 'http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/samng/public_html/osp.php on line 12
please help.. again!I'm getting the same error, hopefully Adam will be able to help.
QUOTE(Armin @ October 1 2007, 02:45 PM)
I'm getting the same error, hopefully Adam will be able to help.
+1
I wonder if it has to do with the host? I am using GoDaddy. Who are you using?
QUOTE(scobols @ October 1 2007, 03:52 PM)
+1
I wonder if it has to do with the host? I am using GoDaddy. Who are you using?
I wonder if it has to do with the host? I am using GoDaddy. Who are you using?
I'm using PolurNet Communications.
Hey, folks. This happens sometimes when the hosting company blocks bringing in pages from other servers. It's a security reason, but there's really no security issue. You could ask your host to let it happen. Or you could update it manually.
Another way to do it is using DHTML rather than PHP. Actually, this is what I use -- I don't use PHP on my site (much). It's just that PHP is usually much easier. My suspicion is that if they're not letting you bring files in using PHP, they're not gonna let you using DHTML, either, but it's worth a try.
I'm pretty sure this is what you need:
Put that into your links file, and then, save that file with a suffix of .shtml or .sht (and yes, that doesn't look real nice).
If that still doesn't work, you'll need to get a new hosting company. Just kidding -- but you will need to update the list manually, which is a pain. Or you can ask your hosting company to let you bring in files from other servers.
Another way to do it is using DHTML rather than PHP. Actually, this is what I use -- I don't use PHP on my site (much). It's just that PHP is usually much easier. My suspicion is that if they're not letting you bring files in using PHP, they're not gonna let you using DHTML, either, but it's worth a try.
I'm pretty sure this is what you need:
CODE
<!--#include file="http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc" -->
Put that into your links file, and then, save that file with a suffix of .shtml or .sht (and yes, that doesn't look real nice).
If that still doesn't work, you'll need to get a new hosting company. Just kidding
-- but you will need to update the list manually, which is a pain. Or you can ask your hosting company to let you bring in files from other servers.
QUOTE(Adam Squier @ October 1 2007, 05:22 PM)
Hey, folks. This happens sometimes when the hosting company blocks bringing in pages from other servers. It's a security reason, but there's really no security issue. You could ask your host to let it happen. Or you could update it manually.
Another way to do it is using DHTML rather than PHP. Actually, this is what I use -- I don't use PHP on my site (much). It's just that PHP is usually much easier. My suspicion is that if they're not letting you bring files in using PHP, they're not gonna let you using DHTML, either, but it's worth a try.
I'm pretty sure this is what you need:
Put that into your links file, and then, save that file with a suffix of .shtml or .sht (and yes, that doesn't look real nice).
If that still doesn't work, you'll need to get a new hosting company. Just kidding -- but you will need to update the list manually, which is a pain. Or you can ask your hosting company to let you bring in files from other servers.
Another way to do it is using DHTML rather than PHP. Actually, this is what I use -- I don't use PHP on my site (much). It's just that PHP is usually much easier. My suspicion is that if they're not letting you bring files in using PHP, they're not gonna let you using DHTML, either, but it's worth a try.
I'm pretty sure this is what you need:
CODE
<!--#include file="http://www.squierphotography.com/links/osplinks.inc" -->
Put that into your links file, and then, save that file with a suffix of .shtml or .sht (and yes, that doesn't look real nice).
If that still doesn't work, you'll need to get a new hosting company. Just kidding
-- but you will need to update the list manually, which is a pain. Or you can ask your hosting company to let you bring in files from other servers.Thanks Adam, that makes sense since I had a similar problem with ShowIT DVD orders. I had to get separate host for my slideshows.
The .shtm option didn't work so I'll do it manual. I'd still like to participate in the list, I already subscribed to your mailing list. Here is the info you need:
<a href="http://www.armindefiesta.com" title="Armin DeFiesta Photography" target="_blank">Armin DeFiesta Photography - Virginia, Maryland, DC Wedding Photographer<strong>Armin DeFiesta Photography</strong></a>
Here is the link you need to see to make sure I'm correct and playing by the rules.
http://www.armindefiesta.net/links.php
Let me know if this works and if you need anything else. Thanks!
OK, I got mine working. I had to edit the php.ini file to read "allow_url_fopen = on". It was set to off.
So, can you please add this to the list?
<a href="http://www.scottbolster.com" title="Waconia Minnesota Portrait and Wedding Photographer" target="_blank">Waconia MN Photography - <strong>Scott Bolster</strong></a>
Thank you,
Scott
So, can you please add this to the list?
<a href="http://www.scottbolster.com" title="Waconia Minnesota Portrait and Wedding Photographer" target="_blank">Waconia MN Photography - <strong>Scott Bolster</strong></a>
Thank you,
Scott
I just found out about this list. Thanks to anyone who made is possible. Hopefully my google rankings will improve.
Peace, Rolland
Peace, Rolland
something weird just happen ... my page drop all the way from page 2 to ~ page 13 in Google.... sad... any idea why?? Thank you thank you.
I've had that happen on occasion as well Sam. Nothing to be too concerned about, I'm sure it will come back up to p2 soon. Mine did.
Thanks Chris, now I feel much better... lol.
I am creating an automated way to exchange links. I am looking for some beta testers. If you would like to participate, please pm me and I will send you more information. You don't have to be a current OSP Link Exchange member to participate. You do need the ability to edit your index.html file and upload files to your web server.
QUOTE(JimCook @ November 26 2007, 10:29 AM)
I am creating an automated way to exchange links. I am looking for some beta testers. If you would like to participate, please pm me and I will send you more information. You don't have to be a current OSP Link Exchange member to participate. You do need the ability to edit your index.html file and upload files to your web server.
I am opening the beta up to 5 more sites. PM me for info.
Thanks for doing all the work on this new idea Jim. You rock bro. I'm curious to see how it all works out.
I would like to be added too please...
<a href="http://www.robynlouise.com" title="Williams Lake British Columbia Wedding Photographer" target="_blank">Williams Lake British Columbia Wedding Photographer - <strong>Robyn Louise Photography</strong></a>
<a href="http://www.robynlouise.com" title="Williams Lake British Columbia Wedding Photographer" target="_blank">Williams Lake British Columbia Wedding Photographer - <strong>Robyn Louise Photography</strong></a>
QUOTE(Chris Uglanica @ December 3 2007, 04:46 PM)
I'm curious to see how it all works out.
Thanks -- I am curious too!
QUOTE(Robyn Mumford @ December 5 2007, 04:06 PM)
I would like to be added too please...
With the recent changes google implemented -- I am not sure how viable this everyone-shares-with-everyone approach is anymore.
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/b...topic=&type
So that is why I am working on another approach.
I'm inclined to agree with ya on this one Jim. I don't know how much help this one is doing with google anymore. But, the premise behind your brainchild is definitely solid.
QUOTE(Chris Uglanica @ December 6 2007, 11:50 AM)
I'm inclined to agree with ya on this one Jim. I don't know how much help this one is doing with google anymore.
If I read it right -- it might actually be hindering. I am not certain.
QUOTE(Chris Uglanica @ December 6 2007, 11:50 AM)
But, the premise behind your brainchild is definitely solid.
I hope so.... time will tell.
http://www.link-co-op.com
If it says "not accepting new sites at this time", then try again in a few weeks. I am only letting in a limited number of sites at a time in order to measure the effects of this new kind of link sharing.
If it says "not accepting new sites at this time", then try again in a few weeks. I am only letting in a limited number of sites at a time in order to measure the effects of this new kind of link sharing.
I'm interested Jim. Let me know what you need me to do.
Could you please update/add this listing:
<li><a href="http://www.bryancaporicci.com" title="Niagara Falls Wedding and Portirat Photographer - Bryan Caporicci Photography" target="_blank">Niagara Falls Wedding and Portirat Photographer - Bryan Caporicci Photography - <strong>Niagara Falls Wedding and Portirat Photographer - Bryan Caporicci Photography</strong></a></li>
Thanks
<li><a href="http://www.bryancaporicci.com" title="Niagara Falls Wedding and Portirat Photographer - Bryan Caporicci Photography" target="_blank">Niagara Falls Wedding and Portirat Photographer - Bryan Caporicci Photography - <strong>Niagara Falls Wedding and Portirat Photographer - Bryan Caporicci Photography</strong></a></li>
Thanks
I would like to get in on the link exchange. Here is my info.
<a href="http://www.goodmansphoto.com" title="Albuquerque Santa Fe Wedding Photographer" target="_blank">Albuquerque Santa Fe Wedding Photographer- <strong>Seth Goodman Photography</strong></a>
Here is the link to my links page.
http://www.goodmansphoto.com/osplinks.php
Thanks
<a href="http://www.goodmansphoto.com" title="Albuquerque Santa Fe Wedding Photographer" target="_blank">Albuquerque Santa Fe Wedding Photographer- <strong>Seth Goodman Photography</strong></a>
Here is the link to my links page.
http://www.goodmansphoto.com/osplinks.php
Thanks
this sounds like a great idea, but i have a question... how is this any different than a link farm? won't the goog just start to hate on us for link spamming?
QUOTE(Dreamtime Images @ March 3 2008, 07:31 PM)
this sounds like a great idea, but i have a question... how is this any different than a link farm? won't the goog just start to hate on us for link spamming?
That is the conclusion I came up with and dropped out. I have been slowly playing with and watching http://link-co-op.com and so far, page ranks either increase or stay the same.
QUOTE(JimCook @ December 26 2007, 03:52 PM)
http://www.link-co-op.com
If it says "not accepting new sites at this time", then try again in a few weeks. I am only letting in a limited number of sites at a time in order to measure the effects of this new kind of link sharing.
If it says "not accepting new sites at this time", then try again in a few weeks. I am only letting in a limited number of sites at a time in order to measure the effects of this new kind of link sharing.
My search ranking sucks at the present time.. so.. I'm hoping that this will improve it.. We'll see.
Greg
QUOTE(Greg Croft @ March 9 2008, 06:31 AM)
My search ranking sucks at the present time.. so.. I'm hoping that this will improve it.. We'll see.
Greg
Greg
Patience! Google rank changes slowly.
Hey Jim,
I am about to do a post announcing my new blog.
It has a different address. How does everyone go about changing it?
Thanks.
I am about to do a post announcing my new blog.
It has a different address. How does everyone go about changing it?
Thanks.
You can send me the link (or post it here).
QUOTE(Lynn Squier @ March 9 2008, 02:28 PM)
You can send me the link (or post it here).
That was me, not Lynn.
This Link Exchange will be shutting down soon. I won't be adding any more links. I suggest you visit this thread to help with SEO.
Let me know if you'd like me to remove your link from the list (be specific). I'll keep the include page up for a while -- maybe indefinitely. I'll try to keep everyone updated.
Let me know if you'd like me to remove your link from the list (be specific). I'll keep the include page up for a while -- maybe indefinitely. I'll try to keep everyone updated.
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