ChrisH
November 10 2008, 09:48 AM
Someone today told me about Psystar which is selling Mac OS X machines for way less than Apple is (which is easy to understand since the PC equivalent HW cost about 1/3 of the price). Anyway, I know some are calling it a Hoax, but even CNET has an article about it. Anyone heard of this? Apple MacPro power for cheap is interesting. I know it wouldn't have the apple fab warranty though.
Calling Meeks....
http://store.psystar.com/featured/openpro-osx.htmlhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9919432-37.htmlhttp://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/psystar-o...7-32978558.html
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
November 10 2008, 09:59 AM
It's like the anti-mac mac. The point of a mac is to buy into the Whole system not just the operating system. There is also some serious legal hustle going on and techinically Pystar is breaking a whole lot of licence agreements (not just with apple) when they provide these.
It's not really mac pro power. It's just a pepped up desktop pc with OSX loaded on it.
ChrisH
November 10 2008, 10:11 AM
I read up a lot more on it. It is part of the OSx86 project. The little things they don't list on the website is that some of the stuff doesn't work (audio sometimes). Updates could kill it and make it a dead box. Not fully integrated into the whole Apple world, etc....
The lawsuit is still on-going so that will be interesting to find out. Just thought it was an interesting thing I found so I wanted to share with others.
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
November 10 2008, 10:47 AM
It actually isn't part of the OSx86 project. It just uses their work. OSx86 strictly prohibits commercial usage.
It sure as heck is interesting. It would be pretty sweet it if ended up working out. It never hurts to keep a 1,000lb gorilla on it's toes!
ChrisH
November 10 2008, 11:02 AM
You're right. It just uses OSx86. I checked the website for OSx86 and couldn't find any fully functional systems. Seemed like everyone has something wrong. A microphone didn't work, speakers dead, etc....
At the iMac level, it just doesn't pay off. With monitor and keyboard, mouse etc... not much savings. At the Mac Pro level is where it gets more interesting.
You're right. It just uses OSx86. I checked the website for OSx86 and couldn't find any fully functional systems. Seemed like everyone has something wrong. A microphone didn't work, speakers dead, etc....
At the iMac level, it just doesn't pay off. With monitor and keyboard, mouse etc... not much savings. At the Mac Pro level is where it gets more interesting.
Chris Mac
November 10 2008, 03:20 PM
There's too big of a chance that you will not be able to update the OS in the future. iMac's are not that expensive. There will probably be a new Mac mini sometime in 09.
MeeksDigital
November 10 2008, 06:24 PM
Chris,
Don't waste your money. The Psystar systems are sketchy to say the least. You get what you pay for with a system like that, and a lot of apple's appeal has to do with their support for the systems should anything go wrong.... I don't see psystar being around too much longer to support their equipment - apple on the other hand will always be there for you if you've got a problem. If you want to buy a system that you risk not being able to upgrade with the new Snow Leopard OS (which, btw, will be awesome!) or install future updates, that's up to you. If you want to take full advantage of the real purpose of a mac, get a mac.
Psystar actually modifies OSX and all of the combo updates that come out so they will work with their systems! WTF? Whats the point of building a system that supposedly runs OSX when you have to rely on that company to "modify" everything in order for it to work?
Not to sound harsh, but you'll be really sorry if you buy one lol. I just don't see it being a good thing at all. iMacs are perfectly capable machines, and so are the mac pros (and I'm sure the new Mac Mini will be a kick!) Make the right choice and get a system that will work for you regardless.
Best of luck man!
ChrisH
November 19 2008, 02:12 PM
QUOTE (MeeksDigital @ November 10 2008, 09:24 PM)

Chris,
Don't waste your money. The Psystar systems are sketchy to say the least. You get what you pay for with a system like that, and a lot of apple's appeal has to do with their support for the systems should anything go wrong.... I don't see psystar being around too much longer to support their equipment - apple on the other hand will always be there for you if you've got a problem. If you want to buy a system that you risk not being able to upgrade with the new Snow Leopard OS (which, btw, will be awesome!) or install future updates, that's up to you. If you want to take full advantage of the real purpose of a mac, get a mac.
Psystar actually modifies OSX and all of the combo updates that come out so they will work with their systems! WTF? Whats the point of building a system that supposedly runs OSX when you have to rely on that company to "modify" everything in order for it to work?
Not to sound harsh, but you'll be really sorry if you buy one lol. I just don't see it being a good thing at all. iMacs are perfectly capable machines, and so are the mac pros (and I'm sure the new Mac Mini will be a kick!) Make the right choice and get a system that will work for you regardless.
Best of luck man!
Thanks for the info. I never really intended on buying one. I just wanted to hear what all the mac geniuses knew about it.
Phil P
November 19 2008, 02:57 PM
actually i just read an article today that they are basically losing their antitrust case against apple, so they'll likely be shut down soon if they can't make a case against apple
MeeksDigital
November 19 2008, 03:34 PM
QUOTE (Phil P @ November 19 2008, 02:57 PM)

actually i just read an article today that they are basically losing their antitrust case against apple, so they'll likely be shut down soon if they can't make a case against apple
As I said before, I don't see them sticking around too long.
Suck on that, psystar!
Chris Mathews
November 19 2008, 06:15 PM
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