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colinmichael
QUOTE(KarenS @ January 2 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]39514[/snapback]
When one post full of hate and vitriol is directed at me personally, then yah, it does. I'm sure you'd feel the same way if you came to my board and I let one of my members go off on you in a similar manner. FWIW, if any member of my board behaved in such a way and said such things about another member, no matter what my personal feelings were, that person would get put on a 10-day Read Only in a heartbeat. And I don't brand my forum as the "niiiiice" forum. FWIW.

Karen

Karen, I try not to single people out but come on. If you can't see that your posts started and continuted to be confrontational and personal then you are not a very self critical person. A few others here have not been so "niiiiiiice" either but they aren't complaining about it and they didn't tell everyone that this entire forum is subpar.
People stated their beliefs. Some are on both sides have very strong beliefs. Some are offended by peoples beliefs. Some people attacked (on both sides) other peoples beliefs. Others have the ability to think, "gee, I don't agree with them on that point" and move on.

And the Big 10 is lame! Believe that!
KAWTER
QUOTE(colinmichael @ January 2 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]39519[/snapback]
And the Big 10 is lame! Believe that!



Florida will get beat by at least 14points..


cameron
QUOTE(Mark Newman @ January 2 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]39493[/snapback]
Was there humor in that, that I missed or was it just mean?


You must've missed it... ph34r.gif
Johnny
QUOTE(KarenS @ January 2 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]39517[/snapback]
No, seriously I'm very puzzled by this comment. Why is saying that OSP is a Christian based forum, an attack?

I'm very very very puzzled by the angry and hateful and ugly turn this has taken against me personally.

Karen



Okay. Let's all drop it now. It's done. In the interest of preserving this forum, I ask that Matt lock this thread. Not to squelch the debate totally, but to let our fires cool a bit.


Mark, her question was directed at me.
It may have been a direct attack or not, doesn't matter really since I answered her with all honesty.

And Karen, this is the *niiiiice* forum. This thread on DPR or any other would not have stayed this civil all the way through. By post #4 it would have been full of hate.


Be Blessed everyone. Love ya! thumbsup.gif
colinmichael
QUOTE(kawter @ January 2 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]39522[/snapback]
Florida will get beat by at least 14points..

You're the second person to tell me 14pts. The other guy also bet USC would be beat by at least 7. How did that work out again? laughing.gif

SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC
MarkN
QUOTE(cameron @ January 2 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]39524[/snapback]
You must've missed it... ph34r.gif

Man, I hate it when I miss things!!!!!

Just like how stupid I felt when I found out a few months ago what Billy Idols "Dancing with myself" was about.
KarenS
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they didn't tell everyone that this entire forum is subpar.
WHOA!!!!!!!

What are you talking about? Where did I say this forum was subpar? EVER?????????

Ok, now I'm angry. I'm very angry. Words are being put in my mouth that I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER used. I'm in fact, bloody furious about this.

Karen
K.C.
Wow, when I started reading this post about 7 hours ago, there were 6 pages to get through. I finally caught up.

Lots of great stuff here.

Going back to the beginning...my wife and I have had this talk about photographing a wedding on my Sabbath (Saturday). I have only second shot so it's up to the person I work with. He will do any day. I have only taken him up on those that were on Sunday and have told him I would help him this month on Saturday, but it is a couple, of my religion, getting married in the Crystal Cathedral, so no hope of getting that venue on a Sunday. After reading this, I'm on the fence of whether or not I should do it. I just don't know.

I do know I really want to go to OSP West but since it is on the weekend, I would skip Saturday sad.gif All these decisions in the name of God.

Anyway, that wasn't worth much but since I read 11 pages worth, I figured I would add something.

On a side note, Dan Watkins, it's really hard to keep things serious and on track with you around. wacko.gif

That is all.
JenStewartPhotography
QUOTE(Mark Newman @ January 2 2007, 04:12 PM) [snapback]39530[/snapback]
Man, I hate it when I miss things!!!!!

Just like how stupid I felt when I found out a few months ago what Billy Idols "Dancing with myself" was about.



you JUST figured out the meaning of that song??? laughing.gif

Please tell me you knew what Cindy Lauper's song "shebop" was about? laughing.gif thumbsup.gif
MarkN
QUOTE(JenStewartPhotography @ January 2 2007, 05:30 PM) [snapback]39542[/snapback]
you JUST figured out the meaning of that song??? laughing.gif

Please tell me you knew what Cindy Lauper's song "shebop" was about? laughing.gif thumbsup.gif

found that out at the same time. Im so bad.```
MattA
QUOTE(kawter @ January 2 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]39481[/snapback]
at the same time I think you should examine something as well..

If this is a trend and you keep getting accused of something, maybe you have a little to do with it


I appreciate you actually taking the time to try & see where I was coming from. And you are right, I have to look at what I write as well. By "trend" - mostly I mean this one thread and being accused by people who believe they disagree with me. lol But yes, what you say is true - I know it's not the world. But I think we all know that there are going to be people on both sides of ALL issues - I think I'm sticking up for my side as is Johnny quite well. We differ, but we have respect.

As to Karen - well if she thought she was coming back to love, admiration & respect from ME? LOL Let's just say I was happy 2006 never happened as far as her & I go. I have tried in other venues to stick to the topic at hand but her third post back on OSP was "I kind of knew it was a mistake to try to offer actual advice here" at OSP. She took all of 1 day to put the forum down. Let's just say we go way back. smile.gif Not saying there's gonna be a "right" and "wrong" with me & her - just that it's going to be heated.

M
J*I*L*L HIGGINS
This is a quqote you made to someone here...not me...but I'm responding.

QUOTE(KarenS @ January 2 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]39362[/snapback]
Hm. Well I just don't think this is going anywhere, because I feel that you've already made up your mind about anything I'm going to say and that you're going to exaggerate it for the most radical and negative spin you can put on it.
karen


I don't think he is the only person on the forum who has ever exaggerated. This quote came from you...

"Say every time you posted something over half the people responded with some variation of "If Allah wills it" and "Allah be praised".

I hardly think it's anywhere near accurate to say the reverse is true.

If you are so offended by what Christians say here, I honestly don't understand why you have chosen to enter - much less spend so much time on a post clearly titled "a few questions for Christians."

I apologize for singling you out, but you are being mean and hostile to a group of people who are nice. It seems like you came here with a preconceived idea that the people here are a horrible group of people who are out to get you.

This really is a great place. My business has grown leaps and bounds because of the kind and generous nature of the people who post here. I have never known such a group of "strangers" who are so willing to help anyone out in anyway that they can. I think if you would give it a fair shake you would possibly become addicted like the rest of us.
BillCawley
QUOTE(Jill Higgins @ January 2 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]39551[/snapback]
This is a quqote you made to someone here...not me...but I'm responding.
I don't think he is the only person on the forum who has ever exaggerated. This quote came from you...

"Say every time you posted something over half the people responded with some variation of "If Allah wills it" and "Allah be praised".

I hardly think it's anywhere near accurate to say the reverse is true.

If you are so offended by what Christians say here, I honestly don't understand why you have chosen to enter - much less spend so much time on a post clearly titled "a few questions for Christians."

I apologize for singling you out, but you are being mean and hostile to a group of people who are nice. It seems like you came here with a preconceived idea that the people here are a horrible group of people who are out to get you.

This really is a great place. My business has grown leaps and bounds because of the kind and generous nature of the people who post here. I have never known such a group of "strangers" who are so willing to help anyone out in anyway that they can. I think if you would give it a fair shake you would possibly become addicted like the rest of us.


That was a very 'Love Cat' response Jill. :-) and here I was looking for the old 'Take it to DPreview' emoticon, where did that go anyway??
MattA
I think I am going to lock this for now - Karen is obviously heated. I'm obviously posting stuff to rile her up. The discussion is FAR from my questions and I did get some feedback that I consider useful in my own journey. I hope everyone did.

If you feel this thread MUST be unlocked, PM me - if you feel all you want to do is reply with more heat, let's just let it go for now. If we come back to it later, great. But this IS a fun place to be and I'd like to continue the nice and stop with this. Again, if you disagree with this decision, I'll listen. smile.gif

M
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