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David from Puerto Rico
Hi guys,

I am giving InDesign a full run at an album design. I just watch Kevin's video again.

But I got a question. If I want to add texture to a layout, how would I go about doing that?

In PS I just blend the two layers. I know that layers in InDesign are not the same thing. Is there a way of would I have to do it in PS (I suspect this is the answer). If so, is there a way to roundtrip from Id to PS and back?

Thanks guys...

PS... one more question for Kevin... How did you put your name in the top bar on your MAC? That is cool!
Jason Aten
QUOTE (David from Puerto Rico @ September 4 2008, 12:33 AM) *
Hi guys,

I am giving InDesign a full run at an album design. I just watch Kevin's video again.

But I got a question. If I want to add texture to a layout, how would I go about doing that?

In PS I just blend the two layers. I know that layers in InDesign are not the same thing. Is there a way of would I have to do it in PS (I suspect this is the answer). If so, is there a way to roundtrip from Id to PS and back?

I'm not Kevin or Ben, but I'll answer your questions! You are correct, you have to do the image editing in Photoshop.

QUOTE
PS... one more question for Kevin... How did you put your name in the top bar on your MAC? That is cool!


Without seeing what you mean, I believe it's because of the fast user switching. In your accounts pane of the system preferences, select "login options", then choose "enable fast user switching" and select VIEW AS "Name"

hope that helps!

jason
benharrison
Yeah, I agree with jason ... you would still need to add the textures to the designs in photoshop ... you could either export the design as jpeg spreads and add the textures to those files in photoshop ... or, if you are worried about the quality after opening and resaving jpegs (compressing a compressed file) I would export the spreads as .eps format and then open those in photoshop ... that way you are working with an uncompressed file prior to adding the textures.

Indesign just doesn't have the blending modes/capabilities of photoshop ... because there really is a huge need for that in the page layout world.
puredesign
In Indesign you can place a texture image over a photo and lower the opacity of the image and use a blending mode similar to Photoshop. Photoshop allows you to mask parts of the texture, for example over someone's face or skin and Indesign doesn't have that flexibility. In Indesign, you can fade the texture image at the edges, from one or more edges, but you can't "paint" in a mask as in Photoshop.

Some of these features were added in CS3.

Indesign has an advantage over Photoshop in that you can place a texture on a master page and it will exist throughout your book.
David from Puerto Rico
QUOTE (puredesign @ September 4 2008, 11:39 AM) *
In Indesign you can place a texture image over a photo and lower the opacity of the image and use a blending mode similar to Photoshop. Photoshop allows you to mask parts of the texture, for example over someone's face or skin and Indesign doesn't have that flexibility. In Indesign, you can fade the texture image at the edges, from one or more edges, but you can't "paint" in a mask as in Photoshop.

Some of these features were added in CS3.

Indesign has an advantage over Photoshop in that you can place a texture on a master page and it will exist throughout your book.



Thanks guys.

Where are those blending modes in Id? How would you do it?

If I export them as eps would it be "layers" of images in the layout or it would be a flatten file?

I guess I could also create the backgroun image in PS and then place it as a pSD into Id to keep the flexibility?

How do you do roundtrip between both software?

Couple of questions...

I did export the layout as Jpgs (Id CS3) and it gives me a nice large file, but it does not embed any color profile other than just RGB. When I open the jpg in PS it ask me for the profile I want to use.

So I use the method that Kevin Suggested in his video of exporting as PDF and converting them to jpg on Acrobat. The file is smaller (more compression than straight from Id?) but it does have a color profile.

When I compared both jpg it seems that the color in the one created by Acrobat is more accurate with the original image...

Can you determine the color space for jpgs in Id when exporting?

Will I loose any quality if I send my layouts as PDF instead of high res JPG? I must confess I don't know much about PDFs.

Could I export (should I?) all my layouts as eps and then using Bridge/PS convert them to jpgs? Could that be an option?


Sorry for the tons of questions... It is that I am loving using Id! I want more!!!
puredesign
I can't answer all your questions.

The Effects palette in Indesign allows you to control the opacity and blend mode of objects. You can access the palette under the Window menu.

Pdfs use jpeg compression and the quality completely depends upon the settings you select when you export the file. The advantage of pdfs is that vector stuff such as type and clipart, borders and rule lines remain vector and of the highest quality, even if you compress the images in the layout the vector stuff will be unaffected. And vector objects in your layout do not cause the file size to balloon like images will.
David from Puerto Rico
QUOTE (puredesign @ September 4 2008, 01:01 PM) *
I can't answer all your questions.

The Effects palette in Indesign allows you to control the opacity and blend mode of objects. You can access the palette under the Window menu.

Pdfs use jpeg compression and the quality completely depends upon the settings you select when you export the file. The advantage of pdfs is that vector stuff such as type and clipart, borders and rule lines remain vector and of the highest quality, even if you compress the images in the layout the vector stuff will be unaffected. And vector objects in your layout do not cause the file size to balloon like images will.

Thanks. That helps.

One of my biggest concerns is the jpgs that Id exports is color space. It odes not seems to have any, except RGB.
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