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*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
I'm not a terribly big canon fan anymore but hey, it's keeping the rest of them on their toes. The 50d Canon page is still down. But the press release is here.
MattA
eff the cam, i want that 18-200 IS lens
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
QUOTE (Matt Antonino @ August 26 2008, 01:12 AM) *
eff the cam, i want that 18-200 IS lens


Heh, i'll wait to see if the quality is abysmal as the 28-200!! (Shame that the 18-200 is ef-s but then again a 13lb lens woudln't really be too cool either blink.gif )
Scott Brown
15MP on a 1.6x crop sensor... the more MP you back on a small sensor, the more noise you will likely expect...

Face Detection in Live View? can you say point and shoot?

"The improved Auto Lighting Optimizer transforms lifeless, underexposed snaps into sharp, vivid photos while highlight tone priority preserves delicate highlight detail — a sure way to capture the subtle intricacies of light fabric or other textured, high-key surfaces."

Sorry Canon, but come on! The 40D was only released last year... where is the replacement for the 5D that came out 3 years ago!!!

I don't ask for much... 12MP, FF, the colors of the M3, and a dust cleaner... not much to ask... if they want to bump it to 16.7MP that would be cool too ;-)
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
QUOTE (Scott Brown @ August 26 2008, 01:15 AM) *
where is the replacement for the 5D that came out 3 years ago!!!


Photokina in September. And expect 2 full frame cameras.
MeeksDigital
Canon 50D = More bragging rights for uncle bob... fan-f*ing-tastic.

But you know what? Canon is thriving on these consumer-based cameras, so why not release a new one every year? More megapixels = more hype. More noise, uncle bob couldn't care less. He has almost as many megapixels as I do now. Yay.
Shan
Sorry, but more megapixels does NOT equal more noise.

Show me one instance of a DSLR where the current generation didn't deal with noise better than the previous. It just doesn't work that way.

If nothing else, this should give a taste of what is to come with the new 5D and the next generation of 1 series.

Hell, if you're using a 1D, the XSi has more MP than you. When did having more pixels become a problem OR an asset? It's just a freaking spec. I trust Canon will have the noise well under control, and in line with all their XXD series, no matter what MP it has.

Looking forward to the new 5D - I'm really interested in what kind of AF it has!
MeeksDigital
QUOTE (Shan @ August 26 2008, 01:01 AM) *
Hell, if you're using a 1D, the XSi has more MP than you.


if you're using a 1D, the rebel 300 would have more megapixels.... 4.1 vs. 6 thumbsup.gif
Shan
not quite what I meant, but still the point! (I'm not sure if you're still using the MII, or if you've upgraded to a 1Ds, since you said he'd have almost as many MP as you.)

Let's just wait and see what it is. I'm sure DiGIC IV is going to be quite impressive, especially in dual form. What kind of throughput is that, 94.5 MP/Sec (single) or 189 MP/Sec dual? That means 18.9MP @ 10 FPS - a full frame IDmIV perhaps?

All good stuff!

Shan
Maruf
I'm guessing that the 5D Mark II will be very similar to this, just swapping out the sensor with full frame, and possibly a slight MP bump.
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
QUOTE (MeeksDigital @ August 26 2008, 03:10 AM) *
More megapixels = more hype.

I'm just curious about the sRAW to see how they do it. It could in theory lead to super noiseless yet still sharp pictures. I'd really like to see it in practice or read a paper on the theory. I mean 7.1MP is TOOONS if it's quality enough. I'd definitely be curious to try ou that sraw mode as long as it's non-cropping.

Thoughts?
jfphoto
QUOTE
eff the cam, i want that 18-200 IS lens



Ya, too bad its not L and its not 2.8, otherwise would have been perfect.
tzalmaves
QUOTE (*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o @ August 26 2008, 09:51 AM) *
I'm just curious about the sRAW to see how they do it. It could in theory lead to super noiseless yet still sharp pictures. I'd really like to see it in practice or read a paper on the theory. I mean 7.1MP is TOOONS if it's quality enough. I'd definitely be curious to try ou that sraw mode as long as it's non-cropping.

Thoughts?


I'd gladly shoot @ 7.1MP if it means one more stop of noiseless ISOage.

The 50D has AF microadjustment, so the 5DII will as well. That's great.

-TM
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
QUOTE (jfphoto @ August 26 2008, 12:23 PM) *
Ya, too bad its not L and its not 2.8, otherwise would have been perfect.


Lmao, lets be realistic now. I don't see you carrying around one of these. Click to view attachment

There's a reason that glass with alot of focal range isn't terribly fast and usually doesn't cover a full frame sensor.
tzalmaves
QUOTE (*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o @ August 26 2008, 12:32 PM) *
Lmao, lets be realistic now. I don't see you carrying around one of these. Click to view attachment

There's a reason that glass with alot of focal range isn't terribly fast and usually doesn't cover a full frame sensor.


That's the Sigma, yes?

-TM
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
QUOTE (tzalmaves @ August 26 2008, 12:35 PM) *
That's the Sigma, yes?

-TM

Yessir Sigma 200-500 2.8
Ryan J
I have to say that if this camera lives up to half its promise, I think more than a few wedding shooters will be using it.

If this is what they are doing for the consumer tier, you can bet that the 5D Mark II is going to knock it out of the park. It has to. With all the buzz around the Nikon D700 and D3, if Canon doesn't do this right, they are going to look like complete noobs. I will probably sell my Canon and go Nikon. Seems extreme, but I have been a Canon guy for 7 years now. If they can't do it right, I will kick them to the curb.
Rich Smith
QUOTE (*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o @ August 26 2008, 01:23 AM) *
Photokina in September. And expect 2 full frame cameras.


Source? I've heard about them announcing the next 5D at Photokina but 2 full frames? Where did you hear that? Hope you're right!
BillCawley
QUOTE (tzalmaves @ August 26 2008, 09:32 AM) *
I'd gladly shoot @ 7.1MP if it means one more stop of noiseless ISOage.

The 50D has AF microadjustment, so the 5DII will as well. That's great.

-TM


+1

Micro adjust rocks.
Rich Smith
Anyone seen the review on dpreview yet?

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos50d

Some really cool improvements. Anyone want to buy a 40D? smile.gif
BillCawley
QUOTE (Rich Smith @ August 26 2008, 11:24 AM) *
Anyone seen the review on dpreview yet?

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos50d

Some really cool improvements. Anyone want to buy a 40D? smile.gif


No kidding - freakin hell I just bought a new 40D.... :\
Rich Smith
QUOTE (BillCawley @ August 26 2008, 02:34 PM) *
No kidding - freakin hell I just bought a new 40D.... :\


Yeah... that's what I'm screaming. The 40D just came out.
Jasont
Is this camera not overkill though? Why do you need 15MP?
BillCawley
QUOTE (Jasont @ August 26 2008, 12:01 PM) *
Is this camera not overkill though? Why do you need 15MP?


I couldn't care less about the number of pixels... but the lens micro adjust is a huge feature for those who shoot fast primes wide open.
kampphotography
QUOTE (MeeksDigital @ August 26 2008, 02:10 AM) *
Canon 50D = More bragging rights for uncle bob... fan-f*ing-tastic.

But you know what? Canon is thriving on these consumer-based cameras, so why not release a new one every year? More megapixels = more hype. More noise, uncle bob couldn't care less. He has almost as many megapixels as I do now. Yay.


My thoughts exactly....

"Oh your 5D only has 12MP well my 50D has 15MP...."
tzalmaves
QUOTE (BillCawley @ August 26 2008, 03:59 PM) *
I couldn't care less about the number of pixels... but the lens micro adjust is a huge feature for those who shoot fast primes wide open.


My 5D back-focuses by 1cm and I'm about to send it back for the THIRD TIME to CPS. This feature will allow me to bypass their incompetence.

-TM
lisaS
QUOTE (kampphotography @ August 26 2008, 01:02 PM) *
My thoughts exactly....

"Oh your 5D only has 12MP well my 50D has 15MP...."



yes, I found this part of the press release interesting...

Canon Gets Creative For Advancing Amateurs
Canon is taking steps to give advanced amateurs more flexibility with a new "CA" Creative Full Auto setting on the EOS 50D Digital SLR camera's mode dial. This new setting goes a step beyond Full Auto, by allowing users to make adjustments before shooting while still in an Automatic mode, without needing to know the meaning of technical terms such as aperture, shutter speed, etc. In this mode, the camera menu on the back screen spells out options in common language for average photo enthusiasts, allowing them to "blur the background" or "lighten or darken the image." These easy-to-comprehend image options will help amateur photographers improve the shots they are capable of taking, while helping them learn new techniques. When in the new CA mode, users will be able to adjust flash settings, brighten or darken images, blur the background, set the camera's drive mode, and select a picture style directly on the camera's LCD screen.
MattA
After our horror story 30d and the horror story 30d and 40ds we've since read about, no we're not getting a 50d. lol 5d2 and 1d3 here. That's it.
Mark Christensen
Still love my MIII. And I'm a firm believer in it the operator of the camera that makes the camera great. I know you've all heard this before, just keep a level heard about it. 2 weddings ago as I'm shotting with my Mark III 1D and have a Mark II on my shoulder, the father of the groom hands me his Mark III 1DS and asks me to take a picture of him with his son and new bride. I looked at it and laughed inside as I took the camera off P, set my same settings as my manual settings with the exposure compensation set as mine was, the correct way and snapped the picture. Then handed him back the camera in P mode again. Oh and he had some L series glass on it too. They may have it, but they don't know how to use it.
Aaron Pelly
Now if only Canon would improve the naming...when they start naming cameras things like 1DmkIIn it gets pretty confusing.

Something like Chuck or Lisa would work pretty well....maybe they could use the hurricane naming system.

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Burt
My 40D is getting the job done. I think I'm going to save up for the 80D or maybe a Gibson Les Paul.

8 )

Bill Raab
I own a 40D, have since they were released last year. No probs with the 50D coming out this year... my 40D works as good as it did last year but more importantly I have improved more over the past year then any improvements the 50D could bring to me.

But for me it begs a question for 40D owners... would not the normal progression be to move to FF? I honestly cannot see considering the purchase of another crop frame when I decide to upgrade. Other then the expense factor what would keep you from moving to FF in your next body acquisition? I am just curious and really am interested in your response to that question.
Rich Smith
I'm sure the 60D will be coming out in a couple of more months. rolleyes.gif
Ryan J
QUOTE (Mark Christensen @ August 26 2008, 11:38 PM) *
Still love my MIII. And I'm a firm believer in it the operator of the camera that makes the camera great. I know you've all heard this before, just keep a level heard about it. 2 weddings ago as I'm shotting with my Mark III 1D and have a Mark II on my shoulder, the father of the groom hands me his Mark III 1DS and asks me to take a picture of him with his son and new bride. I looked at it and laughed inside as I took the camera off P, set my same settings as my manual settings with the exposure compensation set as mine was, the correct way and snapped the picture. Then handed him back the camera in P mode again. Oh and he had some L series glass on it too. They may have it, but they don't know how to use it.

Hahaha.

I just shot a whole wedding with a 1ds Mark III...beautiful images but those files are FRAKING HUGE!
Aaron Pelly
QUOTE (Burt @ August 27 2008, 04:58 AM) *
...or maybe a Gibson Les Paul.

thumbsup.gif
Maruf
QUOTE (Mark Christensen @ August 26 2008, 11:38 PM) *
Still love my MIII. And I'm a firm believer in it the operator of the camera that makes the camera great. I know you've all heard this before, just keep a level heard about it. 2 weddings ago as I'm shotting with my Mark III 1D and have a Mark II on my shoulder, the father of the groom hands me his Mark III 1DS and asks me to take a picture of him with his son and new bride. I looked at it and laughed inside as I took the camera off P, set my same settings as my manual settings with the exposure compensation set as mine was, the correct way and snapped the picture. Then handed him back the camera in P mode again. Oh and he had some L series glass on it too. They may have it, but they don't know how to use it.


+1, but I'd give the guy a break. Maybe he's a fine art guy that couldn't be bothered with the tech on his sons wedding.

Clearly he does see the value in photography, so i'd feel proud to be chosen shoot his sons wedding.

Edit:

Did the shutter button trigger autofocus? If yes, I retract my above statement smile.gif Rich n00b
MeeksDigital
QUOTE (kampphotography @ August 26 2008, 02:02 PM) *
My thoughts exactly....

"Oh your 5D only has 12MP well my 50D has 15MP...."


I wonder if Uncle Bob watches the megapixel race.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvg4aSX81V0...feature=related
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