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*Troy*
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LmG05AtNVtM

and this one on how to P*SS off a Liberal...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZgnNcUiixxE

Enjoy!
D*m*n
Hilarious and yet so stupid.

I won't admit to breaking any speed limits on our ~900 mile round trip to Asheville, NC last week, but I will say that I had no issues keeping with the flow of traffic or navigating the hills. Four adults and their luggage all managed to fit comfortably in the car for the journey as well.

And I must say that getting > 48 MPG for the highway portions trip and filling up for $35 was pretty sweet. I got better than 51 MPG for our around-Asheville driving and our side journey to go whitewater rafting.

There are other cars that may be better buy strictly from an economic perspective perhaps, but it's just so odd to me that people are so anti-Prius. I still think that as far as new cars go it can't be beat for value or size. I've been driving mine since early 2005 and I have virtually no complaints, though it could be a little wider to accommodate a set of golf clubs lengthwise.

And with gas at $4+ (and climbing) people are more than welcome to keep throwing stones... just as long as they don't actually hit my Prius (or my wife's Prius)...
*Troy*
Billy Bob's three loves (in reverse order)

His Cousin,
His Gun Collection, and
His PickUp Truck!

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Damon... you should have bought a VW Gulf Diesel! tongue.gif
D*m*n
QUOTE(Troy Hill @ July 7 2008, 10:16 AM) *
Damon... you should have bought a VW Gulf Diesel! tongue.gif

Why?
Phil P
QUOTE(Troy Hill @ July 7 2008, 09:16 AM) *
Billy Bob's three loves (in reverse order)

His Cousin,
His Gun Collection, and
His PickUp Truck!

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that is so true. i can't stand pickup drivers, they think they own the road. of course, many of them have to have some sort of nascar/hunting/republican reference on the vehicle. man, the midwest has made me so bitter lol
*Troy*
QUOTE(Damon @ July 7 2008, 10:22 AM) *
Why?


Watch the videos!

Plus... with the diesel you can burn leftover veggie oil, and make the world smell like french fries while you drive!

I usually skip Top Gear, but I saw those links and couldn't stop laughing!
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
QUOTE(Troy Hill @ July 7 2008, 10:26 AM) *
Plus... with the diesel you can burn leftover veggie oil, and make the world smell like french fries while you drive!


Not legally you can't!!! Because then you're not paying that "use tax" for the roads (bout 7c per gallon I think.)

I would love to have some efficient diesels in the US. I think that's why the prius is so popular, we don't have any of those 55+mpg diesels to compare to.
D*m*n
QUOTE(Troy Hill @ July 7 2008, 10:26 AM) *
Plus... with the diesel you can burn leftover veggie oil, and make the world smell like french fries while you drive!

I've done a lot of research on running a "greasecar" and I like it as an option. At the same time I'm not really at the point where I want to strain used vegetable oil to

I watched the videos and didn't really get much as far as real reasons why it's such a mistake to buy a Prius. Diesel has its drawbacks and is also more expensive fuel.

But then again what the hell would I know, I've only been driving one for the last three years...
Jim Karr
well, not that independent research think tanks mean anything, but there was one that published an article the other day and they said the Prius was one of the WORST cars for the environment. Based on the methods and materials used during the manufacturing and after the lifecycle of the car (when you get rid of it and it goes to it's nice place in the sky) it's MORE environmentally damaging than a normal car. I guess a lot of it is due to the manufacturing and disposal of all the batteries involved...... I'll have to see if I can find out where I saw the video/article.
*Troy*
QUOTE(Phil P @ July 7 2008, 10:25 AM) *
that is so true. i can't stand pickup drivers, they think they own the road. of course, many of them have to have some sort of nascar/hunting/republican reference on the vehicle. man, the midwest has made me so bitter lol


Hey Phil,

I found this vid just for you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=pz2eCFoafXk

And here in Indy, if a car has a lib or peace bumper stinker on it, you can usually bet it's zipping by at about 15 mph over the limit and/or running those "orange" lights. wink.gif
Phil P
QUOTE(Troy Hill @ July 7 2008, 10:11 AM) *
Hey Phil,

I found this vid just for you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=pz2eCFoafXk

And here in Indy, if a car has a lib or peace bumper stinker on it, you can usually bet it's zipping by at about 15 mph over the limit and/or running those "orange" lights. wink.gif


i'll have to watch this at home (big brother blocks youtube)

in europe, it's bmw and mercedes drivers who think they own the road and usually drive 100mph on the highways. it's too bad really, i've always wanted to own a bmw, i guess i have to become an aggressive driver to do that. the lesson: jerks are everywhere, they just drive different vehicles!
J Scott
We've got a diesel Jetta and it runs for about 33c/gal. Get the grease from a local restaurant. Takes a few hours work a week to make the bio but gets about 45 mpg and it's got power to burn. And it DOES smell like french fries!
D*m*n
QUOTE(Jim Karr @ July 7 2008, 11:05 AM) *
well, not that independent research think tanks mean anything, but there was one that published an article the other day and they said the Prius was one of the WORST cars for the environment. Based on the methods and materials used during the manufacturing and after the lifecycle of the car

Jim, what you read was total misinformation from a shill marketing group that is paid to peddle phony science.

It's been debunked by numerous parties.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity_of...er_vs_prius.pdf
Phil P
QUOTE(J Scott @ July 7 2008, 10:41 AM) *
We've got a diesel Jetta and it runs for about 33c/gal. Get the grease from a local restaurant. Takes a few hours work a week to make the bio but gets about 45 mpg and it's got power to burn. And it DOES smell like french fries!


how do you make the fuel? do you work specifically with one restaurant? i'm curious to see how you go about doing that, that definitely sounds intriguing and green!
*Troy*
It's only green if you add food coloring.

Check out the Mythbusters on fuel efficiency.

According to them, no modification is required (in warm climates). But in cooler areas, you'll have to be able to switch between reg diesel and oil -- the veg oil gels up at higher temps than the diesel fuel does. So you need to start with diesel when it's cold, then switch to oil when it melts enough.

Otherwise, just run the used veg oil through cheese clothe .... plan on overnight to stain enough for a full day of driving.

PS: You're not paying taxes on this, so you can be ticketed! or worse! Bad liberals! How can you deny the fed govt their fuel money?
Lisa W
Heeeeyyyyy, that's not cool. I've owned 3 Dodge Rams, and not one of them had any of those refrences on them.

I don't have a truck anymore, but boy do I miss the days when I could roll up to Lowes and take just about anything home. (With a house that's almost 200 years old, you have no idea how often that would happen.) Now it's "how on earth will I get that (insert large item here) home?"

QUOTE(Phil P @ July 7 2008, 10:25 AM) *
that is so true. i can't stand pickup drivers, they think they own the road. of course, many of them have to have some sort of nascar/hunting/republican reference on the vehicle. man, the midwest has made me so bitter lol
Phil P
QUOTE(Lisa W @ July 7 2008, 01:28 PM) *
Heeeeyyyyy, that's not cool. I've owned 3 Dodge Rams, and not one of them had any of those refrences on them.

I don't have a truck anymore, but boy do I miss the days when I could roll up to Lowes and take just about anything home. (With a house that's almost 200 years old, you have no idea how often that would happen.) Now it's "how on earth will I get that (insert large item here) home?"



lol, sorry about that. i'm sort of kidding here, and clearly I'm generalizing ( specifically, generalizing pickup drivers in the midwest) and not everyone with a pickup is a nascar/hunting/republican fan. but often I look in the rearview mirror and see an impatient pickup truck driver riding my tail even when i'm already going over the speed limit.
Lisa W
I forgive you then, lol. I'm not a nascar fan, a hunter, or a republican. thumbsup.gif

Here in NY it's usually a Hyndai tailgating me (in my Charger, lol.) I'm constantly having to squelch the temptation to let the Hemi loose and show 'em what fast REALLY is...but alas I can't afford any speeding tickets.



QUOTE(Phil P @ July 7 2008, 02:41 PM) *
lol, sorry about that. i'm sort of kidding here, and clearly I'm generalizing ( specifically, generalizing pickup drivers in the midwest) and not everyone with a pickup is a nascar/hunting/republican fan. but often I look in the rearview mirror and see an impatient pickup truck driver riding my tail even when i'm already going over the speed limit.
J Scott
QUOTE(Phil P @ July 7 2008, 09:49 AM) *
how do you make the fuel? do you work specifically with one restaurant? i'm curious to see how you go about doing that, that definitely sounds intriguing and green!


Our grease comes from our friend's sushi restaurant so it's all from tempura which is really clean and clear. True it doesn't do a great job in winter when it's cold, there's a slight mod for a fuel warmer but it doesn't do well when it's cold and needs time to warm up-usually it's half diesel and half bio then.

Some history of biofuels.. from http://www.arborbiofuels.com/bio_history.html

In 1898, when Rudolph Diesel first demonstrated his compression ignition engine at the World's Exhibition in Paris, he used peanut oil - the original biodiesel. Diesel believed biomass fuel to be viable alternative to the resource consuming steam engine. Vegetable oils were used in diesel engines until the 1920's when an alteration was made to the engine, enabling it to use a residue of petroleum - what is now known as diesel #2.

Diesel was not the only inventor to believe that biomass fuels would be the mainstay of the transportation industry. Henry Ford designed his automobiles, beginning with the 1908 Model T, to use ethanol. Ford was so convinced that renewable resources were the key to the success of his automobiles that he built a plant to make ethanol in the Midwest and formed a partnership with Standard Oil to sell it in their distributing stations. During the 1920's, this biofuel was 25% of Standard Oil's sales in that area. With the growth of the petroleum industry Standard Oil cast its future with fossil fuels. Ford continued to promote the use of ethanol through the 1930's. The petroleum industry undercut the biofuel sales and by 1940 the plant was closed due to the low prices of petroleum.

Despite the fact that men such as Henry Ford, Rudolph Diesel, and subsequent manufacturers of diesel engines saw the future of renewable resource fuels, a political and economic struggle doomed the industry. Manufacturing industrialists made modifications to the diesel engines so they could take advantage of the extremely low prices of the residual, low-grade fuel now offered by the petroleum industry. The petroleum companies wanted control of the fuel supplies in the United States and, despite the benefits of biomass fuel verses the fossil fuels, they moved ahead to eliminate all competition.
*Troy*
need to come up with a way to turn tobacco into bio-diesel.
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