Robb K.
May 29 2008, 09:09 PM
Ok, so here's a quick one for someone to answer for me. I know that Lightroom can change the time/date stamp on image files. So what I want to do is correct the hour on several hundred images and also have that time sync correspond with each hour that goes by. Now if that just confused you, let me try it this way......
My second shooters camera was off by 4 hours. No big deal, just adjust the time according to what I want right......but I want it to do it on a bunch of files and can't remember how to apply the time to all the files and still keep everything in order when using Lightroom. If the first image was shot at 6:22:12 pm, and I roll it back to 2:22:12 pm, how do I get it to keep going when the next hour time frame comes up on the next set of images. Does that make sense? I don't want 2:22:12 pm on all of the files, I just want it to move along in the entire time sync process. I just can't rememer how to do this with the Lightroom program. I have another program that works great for this kind of stuff (A Better Finder Attributes) but I need those same capabilities for all of the images that I have just edited in Lightroom. Ugh! Just trying to make this easier on myself without exporting the files I just edited, then bring them back into Lightroom and put them with all of the other wedding images from this group. C'mon Swan, I know you're still up reading this forum...... ha ha ha! I soooo need some sleep..........
Later,
RK
Lindsey
May 29 2008, 09:12 PM
Select them.
In Library Mode, click the edit button next to "Capture Time"
"Shift by a set number of hours."
Select -4
Viola!
Now if only I saw a way to do that with a couple minutes, which is generally my problem ><
Sandra
May 29 2008, 09:23 PM
QUOTE(Lindsey @ May 29 2008, 09:12 PM)

Now if only I saw a way to do that with a couple minutes, which is generally my problem ><
There is - go under the metadata menu . and edit capture time, and then select adjust by a specific date and time. Select one image you want to change and then control or apple A it to select all images. Change the time for the one you want to switch - and it will then adjust each image in accordance with that one.
Between my assistants and I we use 4 cameras, no matter how many times we synch we always end up 5-6 seconds off on one of the cameras. I always import each camera as it's own separate folder so the time is uber easy to change on that one camera. This works very well and it's one reason I heart Lightroom so much.
Lindsey
May 29 2008, 09:26 PM
QUOTE(Sandra @ May 30 2008, 01:23 AM)

There is - go under the metadata menu . and edit capture time, and then select adjust by a specific date and time. Select one image you want to change and then control or apple A it to select all images. Change the time for the one you want to switch - and it will then adjust each image in accordance with that one.
Between my assistants and I we use 4 cameras, no matter how many times we synch we always end up 5-6 seconds off on one of the cameras. This works very well and it's one reason I heart Lightroom so much.
Ohhh that looked like it would change them all to the same exact time. Didn't realize it intelligently adjusted like that. Thanks
Robb K.
May 29 2008, 09:30 PM
QUOTE(Lindsey @ May 30 2008, 01:12 AM)

Select them.
In Library Mode, click the edit button next to "Capture Time"
"Shift by a set number of hours."
Select -4
Viola!
Now if only I saw a way to do that with a couple minutes, which is generally my problem ><
I did see that part, I'm just needing to apply that operation to several hundred images. I do have them all selected, but it is only letting me change the time stamp on one image at a time. I know there must be a way to do it, but I can't see it just yet.......... so sleepy.........teach young grasshopper to see the light...................
Robb K.
May 29 2008, 09:47 PM
QUOTE(Sandra @ May 30 2008, 01:23 AM)

There is - go under the metadata menu . and edit capture time, and then select adjust by a specific date and time. Select one image you want to change and then control or apple A it to select all images. Change the time for the one you want to switch - and it will then adjust each image in accordance with that one.
Between my assistants and I we use 4 cameras, no matter how many times we synch we always end up 5-6 seconds off on one of the cameras. I always import each camera as it's own separate folder so the time is uber easy to change on that one camera. This works very well and it's one reason I heart Lightroom so much.
Hey Sandra - I'm following what you are saying except I still must be making a very simple mistake and just to stupid to see it. LR is only allowing me to "shift number of hours" to one image at a time. Even when all of the 200 hundred plus images are highlighted and selected from this group of files that my second shooter shot. I just simply want to "shift the hours" to -4 hours on the entire set of files. I know I'm going to feel really silly when someone says to "just do it like this, stupid.........." ;-)
RK
Becka-and-Nate
May 30 2008, 05:30 AM
QUOTE(Robb K. @ May 30 2008, 01:47 AM)

Hey Sandra - I'm following what you are saying except I still must be making a very simple mistake and just to stupid to see it. LR is only allowing me to "shift number of hours" to one image at a time. Even when all of the 200 hundred plus images are highlighted and selected from this group of files that my second shooter shot. I just simply want to "shift the hours" to -4 hours on the entire set of files. I know I'm going to feel really silly when someone says to "just do it like this, stupid.........." ;-)
RK
Did you go under the metadata?
Select all the images that are off, go to metadata, adjust capture time, that should sink them all. That's how I fix it anyway.
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 06:15 AM
Bump de bump!.................
Andy Schwartz
May 30 2008, 06:22 AM
QUOTE(BeckaKnight @ May 30 2008, 09:30 AM)

Did you go under the metadata?
Select all the images that are off, go to metadata, adjust capture time, that should sink them all. That's how I fix it anyway.
This is how I've done this as well. Lynn and I shoot different cameras, and I can sort by camera model using the metadata, and then select all the images I want to change based on a similar moment between the two cameras. Then Metatdata>adjust capture time, and it syncs them all. A great feature.
Andy Schwartz
westparkphoto.com
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 06:22 AM
QUOTE(BeckaKnight @ May 30 2008, 09:30 AM)

Did you go under the metadata?
Select all the images that are off, go to metadata, adjust capture time, that should sink them all. That's how I fix it anyway.
Why do I have to keep getting gray hairs over silly little things like this??? I guess I will just waste an hour or so and go and manually change each file, even if there is a better way......
My exact steps that I do with no avail are as follows:
Metadata > Edit Time Capture > Select "shift by set number of hours" I select -4 because that's what I want to do > still no luck on changing all the files I have highlighted and selected
So while I spend my time going thru each individual file to change the time stamp, I'll be checking back on OSP to see if anyone has a "here, do it like this dummy...." fix for me!
Carl
May 30 2008, 08:46 AM
QUOTE(Robb K. @ May 30 2008, 02:22 PM)

Why do I have to keep getting gray hairs over silly little things like this??? I guess I will just waste an hour or so and go and manually change each file, even if there is a better way......
My exact steps that I do with no avail are as follows:
Metadata > Edit Time Capture > Select "shift by set number of hours" I select -4 because that's what I want to do > still no luck on changing all the files I have highlighted and selected
So while I spend my time going thru each individual file to change the time stamp, I'll be checking back on OSP to see if anyone has a "here, do it like this dummy...." fix for me!

Robb, i'm not trying to state the obvious but, once you have done the above is the metadata actually changing on each image but the images staying in the same places? If so just click on the sort button to alter it from default to time taken.
Also to highlight the images I wanted i selected the images from just that camera in the metadata browser on the library page (left hand side) then highlighted the whole lot and changed the time using the "edit time capture" in the top menu bar.
I've just tried doing this on a job we used two other photographers for and it's worked fine.
Hope it helps,
Carl
swan
May 30 2008, 08:51 AM
Hmm.. You should be able to select them all (do this by using the metadata for that camera's serial number), go under metadata/edit capture time and select the amount of shift you want. It applies it to all the images when I do it.
Not for you?
Andy Schwartz
May 30 2008, 08:51 AM
Sorry, I have only used "Adjust to specified date and time" based on the other camera's shot not the "shift by" function.
Is the one shot you are basing the time change on displayed in the left hand window of the edit time dialog box? It will use this image's adjustment as a basis to shift all the subsequent images' times.
What I do is this:
Select all the images that need the adjustment. I find it can be easier to sort by metadata using the metatdata panel to select the camera used (in my case one of us uses a nIkon, and one uses a 40D so this works for us) and then click on one image to base the adjustment on. This will select that image and leave all the others highlighted.
Then go to Metadata>Edit capture time and the window pops up with the image selected in the panel, and at the top it will say something like "Modify the capture time stored in the XX(number) of images by entering the time...etc..."
Then select "shift..." and adjust the number and click "Change All"
That should do it.
Hope that helps some.
Andy
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 09:20 AM
QUOTE(Andy Schwartz @ May 30 2008, 12:51 PM)

Sorry, I have only used "Adjust to specified date and time" based on the other camera's shot not the "shift by" function.
Is the one shot you are basing the time change on displayed in the left hand window of the edit time dialog box? It will use this image's adjustment as a basis to shift all the subsequent images' times.
What I do is this:
Select all the images that need the adjustment. I find it can be easier to sort by metadata using the metatdata panel to select the camera used (in my case one of us uses a nIkon, and one uses a 40D so this works for us) and then click on one image to base the adjustment on. This will select that image and leave all the others highlighted.
Then go to Metadata>Edit capture time and the window pops up with the image selected in the panel, and at the top it will say something like "Modify the capture time stored in the XX(number) of images by entering the time...etc..."
Then select "shift..." and adjust the number and click "Change All"
That should do it.
Hope that helps some.
Andy
Hey Andy - Now we are on to something. I don't get the "Change All" button when trying to time sync all of these files. If I could ever seem to get that option, I would be in business! What in the world is going on with me!! ha ha! Uggghh!
I have tried every option under the "Edit Capture Time" section and cannot for the life of me apply that action to all of the files I need to change. There must be something so simple and I'm to dumb to notice it.
For Carl - The way I set my files up in Lightroom is by adding a number to the front end of each file. For instance, I create a folder on my harddrive called Cam 1 for camera 1, then Cam 2 for camera 2 and so on. So a typical file would look like 01_DSC0001.jpg. That way I can group all the files from each camera in LR's library mode. That's how I import them into Lightroom. Then once everything is edited down, I do a sort for "capture time" and it puts everything in order for me. So I understand how you are doing it with the metadata file from each of your cameras. That's cool. My problem, even after closing Lightroom, restarting the computer and doing it all over again, still won't batch the files for me.
Where in the world is that "Change All" button??? Dang I feel stupid! ha ha!
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
May 30 2008, 09:30 AM
Why not, not use lightroom? These are JPEGs?
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/Mac and Pc versions available.
Date/Time Shift Feature ^ Have you ever forgotten to set the date/time on your digital camera before taking a bunch of pictures? ExifTool has a time shift feature that makes it easy to apply a batch fix to the timestamps of the images. For example, say that your camera clock was reset to 2000:01:01 00:00:00 when you put in a new battery at 2005:11:03 10:48:00. Then all of the pictures you took subsequently have timestamps that are wrong by 5 years, 10 months, 2 days, 10 hours and 48 minutes. To fix this, put all of the images in the same directory ("DIR") and run exiftool:
exiftool "-DateTimeOriginal+=5:10:2 10:48:0" DIR
The example above changes only the DateTimeOriginal tag, but any writable date or time tag can be shifted, and multiple tags may be written with a single command line. Commonly, in JPEG images, the DateTimeOriginal, CreateDate and ModifyDate values must all be changed. For convenience, a
shortcut tag called
AllDates has been defined to represent these three tags. So, for example, if you forgot to set your camera clock back 1 hour at the end of daylight savings time in the fall, you can fix the images with:
exiftool -AllDates-=1 DIR
See
Image::ExifTool::Shift.pl for details about the syntax of the time shift string.
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 09:37 AM
QUOTE(*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o @ May 30 2008, 01:30 PM)

Why not, not use lightroom? These are JPEGs?
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/Mac and Pc versions available.
Date/Time Shift Feature ^ Have you ever forgotten to set the date/time on your digital camera before taking a bunch of pictures? ExifTool has a time shift feature that makes it easy to apply a batch fix to the timestamps of the images. For example, say that your camera clock was reset to 2000:01:01 00:00:00 when you put in a new battery at 2005:11:03 10:48:00. Then all of the pictures you took subsequently have timestamps that are wrong by 5 years, 10 months, 2 days, 10 hours and 48 minutes. To fix this, put all of the images in the same directory ("DIR") and run exiftool:
exiftool "-DateTimeOriginal+=5:10:2 10:48:0" DIR
The example above changes only the DateTimeOriginal tag, but any writable date or time tag can be shifted, and multiple tags may be written with a single command line. Commonly, in JPEG images, the DateTimeOriginal, CreateDate and ModifyDate values must all be changed. For convenience, a
shortcut tag called
AllDates has been defined to represent these three tags. So, for example, if you forgot to set your camera clock back 1 hour at the end of daylight savings time in the fall, you can fix the images with:
exiftool -AllDates-=1 DIR
See
Image::ExifTool::Shift.pl for details about the syntax of the time shift string.
Hey Bryce - Thanks for the info. I do use a program very similar to that called " A Better Finder Attributes " for Mac. It's a great program and would fix this problem in a second! My thing is that I wanted to be able to use that same feature in Lightroom, because I have edited all of my files down to a reasonable number and to simply do it in LR would save a lot of time for me right now when I go to export everything out of LR. I don't know why everyone else who tries it in LR seems to get it to work, but for me, Murphy's Law is kickin' my butt! ha! Like I said, it's probably some box or something that I don't have checked in LR that's holding me up, so I come to all the smart people here on OSP for the help! Yea!
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
May 30 2008, 09:49 AM
Ohhh now i get what you're saying Robb. I thought that you needed it done and just didn't think of looking at alternate ways to do it! I don't have lightroom at work but I'll play around with it when I get home and see if i can help!
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 10:05 AM
Yeah, I'm still able to correct the time stamp on each individual file and no problems what so ever. Then when I Sort in the Library mode with "capture time" they are even in the correct place. It's just when something that should be so easy for me to do is causing such a problem. It's like trying to place a square peg in a round hole or something!
So who's got the hotline phone number to Julianne Kost at the Lightroom Headquarters? Or even Katrin Eismann? Heck, I'll even call Thomas Knoll at this point!
Andy Schwartz
May 30 2008, 11:05 AM
Weird...
I realized that on this laptop..where I tried it I am using Beta for 2.0.
when I get home I will check on this on my LR1.4.
Is your LR up to date in updates?
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 11:26 AM
Ok folks, nothing speaks like a screen shot eh???
So as you can see, I have all of my second shooters images highlighted. I am in the "edit time capture" of the metadata section using the "shift by set number of hours" button. I changed the time to reflect a - 4 hour time difference which is what I needed. It will do each individual file, but I want to apply this to everything that is selected. So where is this elusive "Change All" button that I need????? Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated.
Well I guess my brain it totally fried today. I can't even get my screen shot to upload on the forum....... Lawd have mercy.......
stevethephotog
May 30 2008, 11:34 AM
I can't download the attachment for some reason.
Andy Schwartz
May 30 2008, 11:36 AM
I can't view the pic for some reason.
OOOPS!! Beat me to it.
Andy Schwartz
May 30 2008, 11:54 AM
I see pic B listed in the post, but can't View it either.
*B*r*y*c*e* L*e*o
May 30 2008, 11:56 AM
Robb add the picture as an attachment. It's in the box right under where you type a message.
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 11:59 AM
I keep getting an error message from OSP when uploading the attached file. So let me go put it on my website and then link from that...... just a second...........
Later,
RK
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 12:27 PM
Ok, let's try this screen shot image one more time...........
Screen Shot for LightroomRK
Andy Schwartz
May 30 2008, 12:42 PM
I am thinking (without having LR 1.4 in front of me) that the change all button is in LR 2.0 beta. But I will check when I get to my workstation at home. Can anyone else confirm this?
In 2.0 It changes to "Change All" when more than one file is selected, which it looks like you have done.
This is the shot I get:
But again it is 2.0beta.
Dang OSP....Try this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/253732...f66be4e22_o.jpg
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 12:55 PM
QUOTE(Andy Schwartz @ May 30 2008, 04:42 PM)

I am thinking (without having LR 1.4 in front of me) that the change all button is in LR 2.0 beta. But I will check when I get to my workstation at home. Can anyone else confirm this?
In 2.0 It changes to "Change All" when more than one file is selected, which it looks like you have done.
This is the shot I get:
But again it is 2.0beta.
Dang OSP....Try this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/253732...f66be4e22_o.jpgHey Andy - Thanks for posting that shot. If all I need to do is switch over to Lightroom 2 Beta version, I'm there!
So for anyone else who has responded to this post, what version of LR are you using? I'm on 1.4 right now, but is that the difference that I need for the "Change All" button from the picture that I posted a link to????
swan
May 30 2008, 01:25 PM
I'm able to do it in 1.4. Not sure where the problem is.
Library mode.
Select multiple images.
Click Metadada/Edit Capture Time...
It will adjust all selected images.
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 01:28 PM
QUOTE(swan @ May 30 2008, 05:25 PM)

I'm able to do it in 1.4. Not sure where the problem is.
Library mode.
Select multiple images.
Click Metadada/Edit Capture Time...
It will adjust all selected images.
Geesh! Now I'm really stumped! Somebody get on the phone to Julianne Kost for me! ha ha!!
swan
May 30 2008, 01:30 PM
Stumped how? Do you not see the metadata option in the menu?
Andy Schwartz
May 30 2008, 01:41 PM
QUOTE(swan @ May 30 2008, 05:30 PM)

Stumped how? Do you not see the metadata option in the menu?
I think if you look at the screen shot, he is doing it right. For some reason it doesn't look like it is accepting the multiple images selected. It plainly looks like you have multiple images selected to me.
swan
May 30 2008, 01:44 PM
It's probably because he's zoomed in on the one image in the library. When you zoom, you only affect the one image...
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 01:47 PM
QUOTE(Andy Schwartz @ May 30 2008, 05:41 PM)

I think if you look at the screen shot, he is doing it right. For some reason it doesn't look like it is accepting the multiple images selected. It plainly looks like you have multiple images selected to me.
And that's exactly what my problem has been this whole time. Not allowing me to change "multiple selected images".
And now that everyone else seems to be able to do it with their LR 1.4 version, I'm really scratching my head! Hey, if I'm doing something stupid, I"ll be the first to admit it here on the forum. No problem! (not like I've never been wrong before, according to my wife

) But what gives!
At least I'm almost finished manually changing each individual file.............
swan
May 30 2008, 01:53 PM
luke, zoom out... feel the force.
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 02:07 PM
OH MY GOSH!! You are the man Swanie!!
I knew of course I would be doing something stupid and not step back and see the problem. That totally fixed it! Dang, I feel like Napoleon Dynamite is sitting here in my office right now! Go ahead, laugh! I don't care!
All I know is that I loooove some OSP baby!!!
I was paying more attention to the film strip view and all of the selected images at the bottom of the screen than to what I was zoomed in to. I actually just like having my image bigger in the upper part of the library view section when I'm editing.
I think I need to go get a margarita or something!!
Robb K.
May 30 2008, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(Andy Schwartz @ May 30 2008, 04:42 PM)

I am thinking (without having LR 1.4 in front of me) that the change all button is in LR 2.0 beta. But I will check when I get to my workstation at home. Can anyone else confirm this?
In 2.0 It changes to "Change All" when more than one file is selected, which it looks like you have done.
This is the shot I get:
But again it is 2.0beta.
Dang OSP....Try this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/253732...f66be4e22_o.jpgOh! and I can't forget to give you some props,
Andy! Thanks for posting
your screen shot so that others like Mr. Swan could find where I was screwing up! Gotta love those screen shot options. I'll use another smiley for you to............
I'm so used to doing batch processing in the film strip view at the bottom with presets that I just figured, well everything is selected that I want to mess with, why won't you work........ Anyways, I hope some other have learned from this! Then again, I could be the only one...... ha ha ha!!!
-RK
petenicol
June 18 2008, 07:10 AM
Oh I am so glad I read this. Apart from being very entertaining its solved my problem too. Just in time presentation tonight.
Thank you one and all
Erica Ferrone
June 20 2008, 06:40 AM
such helpful advice. this just happened. My assistant and I were off more than an hour. THANK YOU OSP!!
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