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RJ in Denver
check out our blog for the full review with image samples.

http://www.kern-photo.com/blog/files/radiopopper_review.php

here are a few of my initial observations:

PROS:

+ high-speed wireless flash sync up to 1/8000 sec. not just, wow. but, WOW!

+ no misfires, yet. they fired around corners, behind vegetation reliably, shot after shot after shot. they even fired through concrete walls with no windows at a distance of about 200 feet. there is absoutely no way the current line-up of wireless ttl flashes on the market can do that out of the box.

+ simple setup and ease of use.

+ slightly shorter set-up times will help in complicated lighting conditions.

+ we pay so much for the lenses with good bokeh to use wide open at apertures such as f/2/.8 or f/1.4, why should we have to stop down to f/5.6 and loose the "pretty" foreground/background bokeh? one reason of the whole shebang about using shallow-depth of field lenses is it is easier to isolate the subject by causing the background to have a soft focus appeal. now we can.

+ i intend to use the radiopoppers like pocketwizards (or any other brand of radio slaves) for triggering your small flashes, but with the added benefit of not having to walk over to each slave to change the power output. this is HUGE. this means i can change power either from in-camera or a camera-mounted flash with its own output turned off. this is especially useful if my flash is on top of a wedding dj's speaker at the reception and i don't want to make an appearance through the dance floor en route to change settings smile.gif

+ if you want to use ttl functionality with ratios and different lighting groups, you can do so from the camera or on-camera flash.

+ the simple design is refreshing to see in a tech world (sorry, equipment measurbators). it has two buttons.

+ "cross-platform" adaptable. this means they play well with both canon and nikon equipment.

+ takes AA batteries.

+ good customer service and support (online, email, and phone). i got a call from kevin king himself ensuring order accuracy. thanks, kev.

+ it is cool to be different.

CONS:

- $360 for one transmitter and one receiver. gulp. evolution has a price, you could say.

- ttl is not that smart, especially when you lighting only a small portion of your photo. ttl flashes evaluates entire scene, sometimes dark or light backgrounds will make them guess wrong. however, you can have the camera guess the power output if you have only 10 seconds to set up a shot and there is perhaps a 50% chance you'll nail your exposure. that is where the spin-the-dial-with-an-edumacated-guess-and-see-what-works method of trial/error via chimping is useful. i prefer to set the output of each of the slaves manually. the new perk is now i can make changes using the camera in my hand instead of walking over to each flash unit.

- a screwdriver is required to change the batteries.

- some disassembly required to store properly store flash and radiopoppers in camera bag securely. (i.e. unscrewing the antennas). similar prep-time with pocketwizards and their cords.

- limited supplies as of now. they are taking pre-order shipments only and the rest i waited 6 weeks after ordering it to get it in the mail).

- no pc-sync cord to trigger powerful studio strobes (keep your pocketwizards). however, the radiopopper jr. seems enticing for only $25, coming late summer.

FINAL THOUGHTS:

if you do not already own a pair of pocketwizards and use speedlights off-camera, then i would 100% recommend radiopoppers for triggering reliability, ease of use, and ttl-metering.

if you fall into the same aforementioned camp and are a strobist, then i 199% recommend them.

if you already own a pair of reliable radio slaves or pocketwizards and consider using speedlights in your off-camera lighting, i would 50% recommend the radiopoppers for the added ease of use in changing power output from holding your camera.

if you do not want use speedlights off-camera (canon or nikon), then save your money.

Barefoot-Memories
sweet!
Thanks so much for the review!

I'm in the market for off-camera strobes (not speedlights).
I'm really torn about going w/sync cords now & wait for the Jr. or just going with PWs now. I don't know what to do!
I know for sure that I'm going to want to speed up past 1/250th so I can use wider aps!!!!

looks like I'll have to wait for Kevin...sigh.. smile.gif worth the wait tho, I'm sure. I just need to decide what to do for now.
RJ in Denver
QUOTE(Barefoot-Memories @ May 11 2008, 07:09 PM) *
sweet!
Thanks so much for the review!

I'm in the market for off-camera strobes (not speedlights).
I'm really torn about going w/sync cords now & wait for the Jr. or just going with PWs now. I don't know what to do!
I know for sure that I'm going to want to speed up past 1/250th so I can use wider aps!!!!

looks like I'll have to wait for Kevin...sigh.. smile.gif worth the wait tho, I'm sure. I just need to decide what to do for now.


you can always go with cheap quantum radio slaves for under $100. i purchased mine used on ebay and they trigger my big strobes just fine for over 2 years now.
Barefoot-Memories
QUOTE(RJ in Denver @ May 11 2008, 06:57 PM) *
you can always go with cheap quantum radio slaves for under $100. i purchased mine used on ebay and they trigger my big strobes just fine for over 2 years now.

Thanks!
I have oh so much to learn!!!

Good think I'm not planning on making money off this off-camera strobe thing ... yet! I need to learn a LOT!
ChrisH
So I love the idea of Radio Poppers, but not sure I can wait around for the Jrs. Almost everything in engineering takes longer than advertised, so late summer could turn out to be December which is beyond my need. Should I just suck it up and get the radio poppers or go with the standard of PWs assuming I MUST have them by mid August at the latest?
Paul@lauraeatonphoto
I'm gonna have to agree with RJ. Groupp loaned me his last week and I got to play around with them for abit. REALLY COOL!

They pretty much survived all my tests and I was shooting really far away to test them, about 150 meters. The only test I wasn't able to do was at an actual wedding. 150 guests with cell phones in their pockets and a band with wireless mics and such would be interesting to see if any interference gets in the way. Just outside my house I was getting about a 85% fire rate which I felt was enough to get myself a set eventually.
Adam Squier
QUOTE(Paul@lauraeatonphoto @ June 24 2008, 09:05 AM) *
Just outside my house I was getting about a 85% fire rate which I felt was enough to get myself a set eventually.

Really?!! That seems awfully low. I would expect high-quality radio slaves to fire upwards of 99.9% of the time. The only time mine haven't fired is when the batteries are low -- and I only have to replace them about once a year.

I guess it just depends on what you're used to. If 85% is good, I can't imagine (well, I can, really) what bad would be.
Paul@lauraeatonphoto
QUOTE(Adam Squier @ June 24 2008, 11:30 AM) *
Really?!! That seems awfully low. I would expect high-quality radio slaves to fire upwards of 99.9% of the time. The only time mine haven't fired is when the batteries are low -- and I only have to replace them about once a year.

I guess it just depends on what you're used to. If 85% is good, I can't imagine (well, I can, really) what bad would be.


I was shooting at 1/8000 so I think the issue was the transmitter picking up the signal and sending it to the receiver. Sometimes the slave would go off but I would see it in the viewfinder so it wasn't synching right.

I think that 85% is good enough cause I was really pushing them.. doing extremes and getting decent results so I'm sure at a fraction of those speeds these should be working in the upper 90's.
ChrisH
Woh. 85%. That is rough. That scares me. I am looking for like 99%, because missing a good wedding moment is unacceptable to me. Does anyone else have experience with these that would like to chime in?
RJ in Denver
Huh? 85% trigger rate... I have NOT had that experience. Once your batteries start going low, and they will go fast if you have rechargeables, then perhaps you'll begin to lose signal strength. But you'll have that with any other radio triggers as well, including PocketWizards.

I have had 100% reliable triggering... even with hundreds of people with cellphones (in an arena), DJ microphones, speakers, etc.

I have noticed I have to change my batteries frequently as I do my flash batteries, but that is only because I rely on the equipment to perform when I need it to. Hmmm.... how many of you change your batteries only when you have to.... you probably won't noticed immediate power loss until it is too late. Same goes with the 'Poppers.

Hope that helps.

R. J.
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