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ross.james
I'm starting to shoot more raw (RAF) and I am using quick develop settings. I would like to just open a group of images with a photoshop batch action that I have created.
But instead I have to open them all in Camera Raw, select them all and then open them in PS.

it's driving me insane
Damon
You can work on the files in Lightroom...
ross.james
QUOTE(Damon @ February 15 2008, 02:04 PM) *
You can work on the files in Lightroom...


I don't have Lightroom. I've never felt like I've had the need for it shooting jpgs on my S5.

What I would prefer is to apply a quick develop setting to raw files and then send them directly into photoshop with photoshop batch action commands. Is this possible with Lightroom?
AKS
I have lightroom but have not yet opened the box......been sitting on my shelf for going on 9 months....
Anyway, I use CS2 and love to batch my RAW files with presets. It is easy peasy. Just highlight a bunch of them in bridge that has the same lighting conditions. Then bring them into ACR or do it with presets right there.
Works like a charm and goes so much faster. I only bring in those that need a little extra umph into photoshop later.
ross.james
QUOTE(AKS @ February 15 2008, 02:12 PM) *
I have lightroom but have not yet opened the box......been sitting on my shelf for going on 9 months....
Anyway, I use CS2 and love to batch my RAW files with presets. It is easy peasy. Just highlight a bunch of them in bridge that has the same lighting conditions. Then bring them into ACR or do it with presets right there.
Works like a charm and goes so much faster. I only bring in those that need a little extra umph into photoshop later.


Anna
Thanks for the reply smile.gif

I am trying to figure out if it's possible to bypass opening them in ACR because I use different photoshop actions for not only processing the images but for resizing, adding borders, preparing images for book pages, adding custom shapes and so on. I usually do all these with actions to a batch of files.
JenWood
So, you're just wanting to bypass ACR altogether (not making any RAW changes) and get on to the Photoshop files? If that's the case, you can select them all in Bridge, then go under Tools/Photoshop/Image Processor, select your output folder and tell it to convert to photoshop files.

Hope I understood the question correctly.
ross.james
QUOTE(JenWood @ February 15 2008, 02:54 PM) *
So, you're just wanting to bypass ACR altogether (not making any RAW changes) and get on to the Photoshop files? If that's the case, you can select them all in Bridge, then go under Tools/Photoshop/Image Processor, select your output folder and tell it to convert to photoshop files.

Hope I understood the question correctly.


GENIOUS!!

exactly what I was looking for

thank you so much Jen
JenWood
Cool! Happy to help.
Kari
Yup, that is what I was going to say.... image processor. You can turn them into any type of file with the click of a mouse.... and a couple hours while you sleep or do something else.
Mark T.
But if you do that why not shoot jpg? Why shoot raw at all?
greg
I shoot Nikon RAW and Fuji S5 jpg and put all through Lightroom and it works for me.
ross.james
QUOTE(Mark Turner @ February 15 2008, 05:49 PM) *
But if you do that why not shoot jpg? Why shoot raw at all?

Hmmm, very good question smile.gif

I have shot jpgs on my S5 for almost a year and I have developed a workflow with Bridge and PS that I like a lot.

But I plan on buying a D300 soon and I am thinking that I will shoot raw on that because it doesn't have the dynamic range of the S5.

So I'm just wanting to see if I can adapt raw files to work easily with my current workflow setup before anything else.

I'm almost tempted to just buy another S5 instead of a D300, but I like getting the newest stuff smile.gif
David from Puerto Rico
QUOTE(JenWood @ February 15 2008, 08:54 PM) *
So, you're just wanting to bypass ACR altogether (not making any RAW changes) and get on to the Photoshop files? If that's the case, you can select them all in Bridge, then go under Tools/Photoshop/Image Processor, select your output folder and tell it to convert to photoshop files.

Hope I understood the question correctly.


I may not be understanding correctly, but then, why shoot RAW at all? You are defeating the purpose of shooting raw. Once you are in photoshop you loose the non destructive flexibility of RAW.

That is precisely why you use programs like Lightroom, It helps you weed out bad images so you don't waste processing time, and you can apply presets when you import your images so you save time. Otherwise, doing what you suggest, you will have to tweak every image in PS and that is more time consuming. Even if you have to do correction to images within Lightroom you can apply the corrections to a group of images and still faster that correcting one by one by one in PS.

I think you are missing the point of Lightroom.

I use Lightroom and out 1,000 images, I may end up going into PS just for maybe 50. 100% of my corrections are done in Lightroom and then use PS for any creative enhancement I cannot do in Lightroom that requires layers of masks.

If you open that box and give it a try you will wonder how you ever survived without it. Try it.

While there may be reasons to shoot jpgs, it is a slower workflow and the "negative" you get is lower quality that a raw file, specially on the S5 that gives an excellent raw file to work with. In my opinion, you are cheating yourself if you shoot jpg instead of Raw. And I say this carefully because my favorite wedding photographer shoot jpg and no one can find fault in its quality. But if RAw is better and allows you a faster workflow, why shoot jpg?

And the S5 and D300 are two very different cameras. I don't think one replaces the other but rather they complement each other. S5 is slow next to the D200/300. It takes forever to store a RAW file. But the S5 has a dynamic range equal by none. For portrait work I think it is superior. But for weddings, it is slow and noisy in higher ISOs. That is where the D300 comes in.
Mark
QUOTE(David from Puerto Rico @ February 15 2008, 11:11 PM) *
I may not be understanding correctly, but then, why shoot RAW at all? You are defeating the purpose of shooting raw. Once you are in photoshop you loose the non destructive flexibility of RAW.

That is precisely why you use programs like Lightroom, It helps you weed out bad images so you don't waste processing time, and you can apply presets when you import your images so you save time. Otherwise, doing what you suggest, you will have to tweak every image in PS and that is more time consuming. Even if you have to do correction to images within Lightroom you can apply the corrections to a group of images and still faster that correcting one by one by one in PS.

I think you are missing the point of Lightroom.

I use Lightroom and out 1,000 images, I may end up going into PS just for maybe 50. 100% of my corrections are done in Lightroom and then use PS for any creative enhancement I cannot do in Lightroom that requires layers of masks.

If you open that box and give it a try you will wonder how you ever survived without it. Try it.

+! I had the same thought. If you are converting RAW to JPEG before you do any processing you may as well shoot JPEG. If however you want the ability to have a wider range of adjustement along with the ability of non-desctuctive editing then Lightroom is absolutely the way to go. You'll never go back to Bridge again. I can fly through a shoot and weed out unneeded images and then do the basic adjustments much faster there once you get used to a Lightroom workflow.
Matt Antonino
QUOTE(AKS @ February 15 2008, 05:12 PM) *
I have lightroom but have not yet opened the box......been sitting on my shelf for going on 9 months....


*cries a very sad cry*

Lightroom is da BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pam
Light room! Light room! I LOVE LIGHTROOM! SO fast! So easy! Trust us, you will love it.
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