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stina.tei
So Christmas is almost here, which means so is our China trip... (we fly out for Shanghai on Christmas day)

Originally, I was only planning on bringing my S5 with my 50 1.4 and 18-200 VR plus an SB800.
Sounded like a great light tourist kit... until I learned that I'll actually be working while I'm there.

Right now it looks like I'll be covering some various events for the university, as well as doing some environmental portraits.

So now I'm starting to think about really packing... what should I take?
Should I take the whole kit so I'm prepared for anything (my first thought since I don't like missing things because I've left something behind)... or should I try to keep it lighter and easier to port around? If so, what should I cut out?

Here's what I'm thinking now... I'd love suggestions--and reminders if you think there's anything I've forgotten!
  • D200
  • S5
  • Grips?
  • 70-200VR
  • 17-50 2.8
  • 50 1.4
  • 90 macro
  • 18-200 VR (mostly as a tourist lens as I don't want to bring everything on our little side trips)
  • shootsac
  • 2 SB800's
  • 2 Vivitars 285's (in case something gets broken--I have 3 of these)
  • 4 pocket wizards + light meter
  • 2 small portable light stands with umbrellas (a la strobist)
  • Large reflector(don't have a small one, but considering it as mine kinda big and even colapsed won't quite fit in my camera bags)

so that's what I'm thinking so far... wink.gif

thoughts - comments - suggestions?
.julie.
dietrich.

you cannot forget dietrich. he'll miss you way too much.

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(i'm no help, i know.)
stina.tei
haha wink.gif he will miss us, but it's a dangerous world for him over there... I have it on good authority that black dog's are more of a delicacy than any other color... wink.gif
Not that I intend to test the theory of course... blink.gif


(here's the Dietrich she's referring to...)
Michael J. McCrystal
You have to weigh your options in terms of how much time you will spend shooting each item vs the amount of time you will send carrying it around for no reason. If you have one stable home base that you can leave gear at and not worry that it is going home with the cleaning staff, then it makes it easier. If you will be on the move all the time you need to really seriously consider your options. The 17-55 and 70 - 200 will handle most situations that you will experience. Two cameras is wise. Do you really need 3 strobes and triggering gear? One of the things you should do is load a bag with everything you are planning on taking and carry it for a day. If you are exhausted, grumpy and not much fun to be with after 8 hours of carrying it, lose some gear.

Good luck in China. Can't wait to see some images.
amorphia
That's a lot of gear! I hate traveling with half that amount of gear and I always take too much anyway. Think about what you're really going to use and ditch what you think might come in handy but really isn't necessary. If I were you I'd ditch the 18-200 and the 50mm and the macro. Like Michael said the 17-55 & 70-200 will cover you.

Have a great time!!
Chad.B
What are the events like for the university? Are they inside or outside? Are they reception type events or more "speaking events" or what?

Those are a lot of lenses....I totally understand wanting to take the 18-200...but I am not sure you NEED the macro, but I can see why you would want to take it. I would guess that the 50, albiet light and small, is not necessary.

I don't know that you NNED to bring the Vivitars. You can hook wizards up to the SB's, right? 2 flashes should do you, I would think. I would bring at least one grip. You are used to shooting with a grip and when you put that 70-200 on a camera, you will want it.

Just my .02 - no refunds allowed.
Matt
from what i have heard on the news... be sure and do not take too many bibles!
Mike Mizzell
QUOTE(stina.tei @ November 19 2007, 02:11 PM) *
So Christmas is almost here, which means so is our China trip... (we fly out for Shanghai on Christmas day)

Originally, I was only planning on bringing my S5 with my 50 1.4 and 18-200 VR plus an SB800.
Sounded like a great light tourist kit... until I learned that I'll actually be working while I'm there.

Right now it looks like I'll be covering some various events for the university, as well as doing some environmental portraits.

So now I'm starting to think about really packing... what should I take?
Should I take the whole kit so I'm prepared for anything (my first thought since I don't like missing things because I've left something behind)... or should I try to keep it lighter and easier to port around? If so, what should I cut out?

Here's what I'm thinking now... I'd love suggestions--and reminders if you think there's anything I've forgotten!
  • D200
  • S5
  • Grips?
  • 70-200VR
  • 17-50 2.8
  • 50 1.4
  • 90 macro
  • 18-200 VR (mostly as a tourist lens as I don't want to bring everything on our little side trips)
  • shootsac
  • 2 SB800's
  • 2 Vivitars 285's (in case something gets broken--I have 3 of these)
  • 4 pocket wizards + light meter
  • 2 small portable light stands with umbrellas (a la strobist)
  • Large reflector(don't have a small one, but considering it as mine kinda big and even colapsed won't quite fit in my camera bags)
so that's what I'm thinking so far... wink.gif

thoughts - comments - suggestions?


ME!!! pack me!! I wanna go!! wink.gif
I'm small and would fit nicely into a medium sized hand bag with a small bottle of water!
Then again... didn't some dude get nabbed a few weeks ago for having a monkey in his hat or something like that?
ok.. maybe not...
lori
whatever you decide to bring in the end, make sure it's insured! you'll rest easier carrying all of that expensive gear around if it's covered...

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MattA
OH - most importantly - get a power converter strip or two. They use these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_socket#...ne_2.2F3-pin.29

You won't be able to charge batteries, use a laptop or plug in anything if you don't have power.


A few things:

1) Chinese do eat dog, but not pet dog. There is a certain breed or two raised on farms much like we raise cows. It's said as gǒu rņu and 狗肉 <--not sure that'll come thru OSP but hopefully. smile.gif That's how it's written. 肉 probably means "meat" so don't avoid everything with that ending. lol

2) Bring deodorant. You'll be the only one in the country with it but that'll be a blessing.

3) Wear easily removable shoes on the airplane. First - security is a nightmare if you have laces, 2 coats, a sweater.... ie dress to pass customs.

4) As far as gear, bring versatility. 2 bodies yes, grips no. Grips are convenience factors - I don't wanna change batteries, I don't want to hold my arm up in the air for a few shoots a week. Don't bring convenience, bring versatile necessity. Pick the 50 1.4 or 90 macro and leave the other home. 2 flash, 2 umbrella, 1 lightstand (hold the other if you need a 2nd flash on a stand). Keep it light, but powerful. Skip the reflector unless you are dependant on it in your style. You can always buy a roll of aluminum foil, put it over a cardboard box when you get there. Instant mirrored reflector of any size necessary.

5) Try to avoid tourist traps when you're side-tripping. Silk market, jade market, all bad ideas. ALL counterfeit, illegal goods that you could get stopped bringing back into the country. Also, you can get the same "trinkets" over here for $1 at the Dragon Dollar when you come back. They're the same things only packaged in "the clerk only speaks Chinese" so don't fall for it. smile.gif $10 for a crystal with the Empire State Building etched inside - $2 when you get back to this side of the planet.

6) Value people & interactions & sights over meals & guides. Walking around in China, taking photos, meeting new people, making new friends - trust me, when you're on the other side of the world, that's what you'll be feeling. Holy crap I need human contact. LOL

As far as why I'm giving you mostly non-photography advice, I'm going to assume that between you and these other 10 photographers you can figure out what flash to pack (2 SB's leave the vivs home) but I'm going to guess that of the group, I've spent more time in China/Korea/Japan than almost anyone here. I spent a year in Korea, three weeks in China and 10 days in Japan. If you're there for anymore than a week, you're going to experience real culture shock. They're nicer, it's safer over there, and you won't see almost any people who AREN'T Asian while on the trip (except maybe university - but while doing any real travel). Don't let seeing a North American ruin your day either. Trust me, you'll feel like they're ruining your cultural contact whenever it happens. lol

PM me if you have other questions about the cultural, travel or that sort of thing.
stina.tei
thanks everyone... yeah I may need to cut it down a bit.

the 50 and the 18-200 are really just to take for the week we are going to be traveling around China (just those two lenses--one wide and long, and the other fast--I really don't want to take my 70-200 where we're going)
The rest of the 'commercial gear' will stay with friends in Shanghai until we get back and start the paid gig (at that time, the 50 and 18-200 will probably stay in the hotel room). One of the benefits of the program we're going with, is that they have us in a pretty nice hotel in Shanghai... which means that I should be able to leave gear without too much worry.

Macro can probably be eliminated... I guess I'm not really planning on taking cool ring shots or anything... haha... man I do love that macro... maybe I can fit the kitchen sink in too... LOL

mmm... yeah three strobes is probably overkill too... it's mainly that I wanted to have extra in case one broke--as I'm not sure what the gear replacement situation is over there... I'll have to give it some more thought.

Matt, not too much of a bible packing trip this time. We probably will take a couple though, as last time when J was there he was asked by multiple people for bibles... pretty cool. (side note, did you know that you can mail bibles to China? Voice of the Martyrs has a really cool program and they have sent thousands--much cheaper than someone taking them over in a suitcase too... ok back to topic).

Chad, Mostly inside events. There will be various types, both lecture/event style and field research, as welll as environmental portraits (face on portraits of people at work) We haven't nailed down the specifics yet, but I do know that there will be some group shots (which is why I want at least two strobes)

So right now, I can probably drop the 90, go down to two strobes, maybe get a smaller reflector, and leave the grips? Goodness, I think I'm one of those people that likes to think about packing... haha. The anticipation and getting ready for the trip is half the fun.

(Mike M. We have the perfect bag for you... but I don't know what it would be like to go through those x-ray machines at the airport... you might scare the opporator to death! biggrin.gif)
BrianC
Spent several years in China studying abroad - lots of fond memories. Are you sticking to the big cities or are you going off the beaten path? If you're remotely western looking, be prepare to have your personal space invaded - frequently, by locals wanting to practice their english with you.
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