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StacyC
Hey guys -

I am trying to calculate how much it costs to order a 3500 series Leather Craftsmen album through Pictage and I'm getting a headache!

I understand that you have to purchase the album and binding AND the prints for the flush-mount pages. When purchasing the "collage album prints", it lists the pricing:

Base Page Price - $200 Per Image Price $1.75

On the "Per Image" price, are they talking about per print (each 10x10 print for the flushmount album) or are they talking about the actual # of pictures on each page (for example, one 10x10 print would have 5 images - are they charging for 5 pictures??)

Please help! smile.gif
Thanks
Stacy

StacyC
Bump! Thanks, guys!
jdelvecchio
If you design the album using Pictage's Album Designer, it is $1.75 per image because they correct each image individually. If you design it in Photoshop or some other design software, you are going to get charged the per page price plus $1.75 per page (since you will be ordering a single jpeg regardless of the number of images).

Hope that makes a bit more sense.

Also, the Pictage forum is a great place to get answers to questions like this one!
StacyC
QUOTE(jdelvecchio @ August 22 2007, 04:36 PM) *
If you design the album using Pictage's Album Designer, it is $1.75 per image because they correct each image individually. If you design it in Photoshop or some other design software, you are going to get charged the per page price plus $1.75 per page (since you will be ordering a single jpeg regardless of the number of images).

Hope that makes a bit more sense.

Also, the Pictage forum is a great place to get answers to questions like this one!



Thanks, Jessica - I am not yet a Pictage member, so I can not ask this question over there. smile.gif This is one of the issues I'm examining in trying to decide. Thanks for your help!
Lynn Squier
It gets really really expensive when you order using Pictage's album designer. A page with 5 images on it would cost $10.75 for that page, that is pretty outrageous, so be careful.
Tim Halberg
wow... I heard from another photographer tonight that they had a client asking them about pricing, and telling them they'd found Leather Craftsmen's prices online (cost)...

It was scary when I found this thread by doing a google search...

(personally, not a big deal, cause I don't sell the album, I sell the design and the photography... but scary for those just selling albums)
Alisha
QUOTE(Lynn Squier @ August 22 2007, 04:40 PM) *
It gets really really expensive when you order using Pictage's album designer. A page with 5 images on it would cost $10.75 for that page, that is pretty outrageous, so be careful.



Pictage's album designer is by far the best and fastest software I personally have used but this is exactly why I do not use them. The 1.75 per image is just an insane unjustified cost.
LukeWalker
i really wanted us to look into using pictage's album designer for our sister company, lillie studios, but when i found out about the 1.75 per image my jaw hit the floor. holy ----!
jkantor
Particularly since I color correct everything before I upload it.
RyanEstes
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Page Gallery!

Yes, it's expensive... but you'd recoup that cost in 2 weddings vs. going through Pictage or having a pro design team do it for you.
Jasont
Even for folks that are WYSIWYG they charge for the correction. This was debated over on the Pictage forums for awhile. Some folks were really upset that they were charging for the image correction when they weren't even correcting their images. I was hoping Pictage would do away with that by now, but they haven't. I refuse to pay that much for album prints.
LukeWalker
we've used page gallery for a couple years ryan, and its a solid program. bottom line for us i have no problem doing that for my own clients if they get a flushmount (although we push la-vie on everyone), but for those people with business models based on volume or with additional shooters in their studio often times outsourcing the album design is a great option. i had heard pictage had the free album designer so i thought great, we'll try that out for LS. but then when ali and i researched it i was blown away. i always told myself that pictage isn't a bad company, it's just given me a bad taste because i use a business model that's not friendly with pictage. but then when we started LS i thought my opinion of pictage would change... but im still finding problems with the pricing structure and overall options.

as i mentioned before, the 1.75 blew me away and pretty much makes pictage not an option because of it. someone, somewhere, screwed up with that idea.
Alisha
QUOTE(JasonTench @ November 30 2007, 09:50 AM) *
Even for folks that are WYSIWYG they charge for the correction. This was debated over on the Pictage forums for awhile. Some folks were really upset that they were charging for the image correction when they weren't even correcting their images. I was hoping Pictage would do away with that by now, but they haven't. I refuse to pay that much for album prints.


Exactly!!! When I did get my prints through them, I wondered if they were even corrected at all.....
RyanEstes
QUOTE(LukeWalker @ November 30 2007, 11:43 AM) *
we've used page gallery for a couple years ryan, and its a solid program. bottom line for us i have no problem doing that for my own clients if they get a flushmount (although we push la-vie on everyone), but for those people with business models based on volume or with additional shooters in their studio often times outsourcing the album design is a great option. i had heard pictage had the free album designer so i thought great, we'll try that out for LS. but then when ali and i researched it i was blown away. i always told myself that pictage isn't a bad company, it's just given me a bad taste because i use a business model that's not friendly with pictage. but then when we started LS i thought my opinion of pictage would change... but im still finding problems with the pricing structure and overall options.

as i mentioned before, the 1.75 blew me away and pretty much makes pictage not an option because of it. someone, somewhere, screwed up with that idea.


I do understand that, and I love the free album design you get with Pictage but with the extra charge for album prints, you wind up paying for it anyway. I am not a volume-based studio, and I tend to be picky so I like to have control over the process.
Adam Pek
I know that this could be a scary for many but why don't you just get Adobe InDesign or Page Maker and learn how yo use it ?. You can download tutorials of internet and be ready to design your stuff in days and chose company to produce you book based on the job they do not the software they offer. Just a crazy idea.
Sean Azul
I design my pages in Page Gallery, print spreads through whcc, and have LC bind only.

You can save a little by printing 10x10s, but LC prefers the full spreads so they can cut and make sure everything lines up as it should.

Sean

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