Ok, I upgraded my flash from the 580 EX to the 580 EX II to my horror the flash will not work properly on my 1D MK IIn, yesteray it blew out everything today, it will not fire at all. I have used it on my 30d with not problem. Does anyone have knowledge of what the problem could be????
Thanx in advance
Andy
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what a POS. no idea man, i'm sorry to hear you're having problems!!!
i hope you've got your ol' 580 to work with.
i hope you've got your ol' 580 to work with.
Andy, it sounds like a contact problem. Mine was doing it when I first got it too. I'm thinking Canon may end up doing a recall. The new plate is metal, and the lock is wonderful. The problem is the weather seal. look closely at it and make sure that it is seated properly all the way around it. If it isn't, then fix it. If you check, I bet you will feel a slight looseness when the flash is locked down compared to the old 580. This is a serious problem that I'm sure Canon will have to address at some point. I knew that was what was going on with mine because I had a nikon flash do the same thing to me a few years ago. It overexposes and gives a full dump because it isn't connected proprely, and doesn't know what to do. This should fix it, but who knows how long it will last. It is kind of shabby that the rubber weather protector is involved in the lock down to begin with, because that will surely be the first thing to go with time.
Good luck.
Good luck.
QUOTE(Frank DiMeo @ July 22 2007, 10:25 PM) 
Andy, it sounds like a contact problem. Mine was doing it when I first got it too. I'm thinking Canon may end up doing a recall. The new plate is metal, and the lock is wonderful. The problem is the weather seal. look closely at it and make sure that it is seated properly all the way around it. If it isn't, then fix it. If you check, I bet you will feel a slight looseness when the flash is locked down compared to the old 580. This is a serious problem that I'm sure Canon will have to address at some point. I knew that was what was going on with mine because I had a nikon flash do the same thing to me a few years ago. It overexposes and gives a full dump because it isn't connected proprely, and doesn't know what to do. This should fix it, but who knows how long it will last. It is kind of shabby that the rubber weather protector is involved in the lock down to begin with, because that will surely be the first thing to go with time.
Good luck.
Good luck.
The contact plate on the CAMERA can also come loose. There's a cover plate around the contact on the camera... Use a small screwdriver to slide it backwards out of the hot shoe. Then use locktite and a small screw driver to tighten the screws that hold the hot shoe plate onto the 1D -- you'll be tightening the hot-shoe to camara connection at the same time.
1D bodies are notorious for this loosening of the hot shoe.
QUOTE(Frank DiMeo @ July 22 2007, 10:25 PM)
Andy, it sounds like a contact problem. Mine was doing it when I first got it too. I'm thinking Canon may end up doing a recall. The new plate is metal, and the lock is wonderful. The problem is the weather seal. look closely at it and make sure that it is seated properly all the way around it. If it isn't, then fix it. If you check, I bet you will feel a slight looseness when the flash is locked down compared to the old 580. This is a serious problem that I'm sure Canon will have to address at some point. I knew that was what was going on with mine because I had a nikon flash do the same thing to me a few years ago. It overexposes and gives a full dump because it isn't connected proprely, and doesn't know what to do. This should fix it, but who knows how long it will last. It is kind of shabby that the rubber weather protector is involved in the lock down to begin with, because that will surely be the first thing to go with time.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Hey Frank;
That is exactly what happened I still have one EX and one EX II, I swear Im so pissed because I never had so many problems with my other system. This has been such a frustrating transiton and dumping of allot of money. Im really down right now about a few things. 1- lack of consistent exposure, the 2-WB sucks outside qround green foliage and 3- the system often blows out my ambient when I mix daylight with indoor lighting like in venues with alot of window light or the friggin flash will unexpectedly under expose and the images are flat. Over the past 7 months since my switch, I feel like my photography has taken steps backward rather than forward. I know the Canon system is great, I just feel like im doing so many things wrong that I wasny doing with my Nikon and Fuji Gear. I have so many weddings that it frustrates me that I cant get this undrer control.
What seal should I be looking at? The one on the 4 thousand dollar camera I just brought or the one on the 500 dollar flash that is suppose to b perfect. Really feeling let down by the whole deal. Sorry for venting. Thanx for the help and support.
Andy
That is exactly what happened I still have one EX and one EX II, I swear Im so pissed because I never had so many problems with my other system. This has been such a frustrating transiton and dumping of allot of money. Im really down right now about a few things. 1- lack of consistent exposure, the 2-WB sucks outside qround green foliage and 3- the system often blows out my ambient when I mix daylight with indoor lighting like in venues with alot of window light or the friggin flash will unexpectedly under expose and the images are flat. Over the past 7 months since my switch, I feel like my photography has taken steps backward rather than forward. I know the Canon system is great, I just feel like im doing so many things wrong that I wasny doing with my Nikon and Fuji Gear. I have so many weddings that it frustrates me that I cant get this undrer control.
What seal should I be looking at? The one on the 4 thousand dollar camera I just brought or the one on the 500 dollar flash that is suppose to b perfect. Really feeling let down by the whole deal. Sorry for venting. Thanx for the help and support.
Andy
Nothing to add except that I'm sorry you're going through this crap, Andy. Hang tight!
yes, hang tight Bud, you will get it down.
The seal on the flash is the one I'm talking about. It is like a loose rubber ring that sits around the bottom of it between the lock plate and the flash metal plate.
The seal on the flash is the one I'm talking about. It is like a loose rubber ring that sits around the bottom of it between the lock plate and the flash metal plate.
QUOTE(C.J. Scott @ July 23 2007, 06:20 PM)
Nothing to add except that I'm sorry you're going through this crap, Andy. Hang tight!
Thanx C.J. That was really sweet. Thanx for the support. By the way, Love your work:)AndyQUOTE(Frank DiMeo @ July 24 2007, 12:16 AM)
yes, hang tight Bud, you will get it down.The seal on the flash is the one I'm talking about. It is like a loose rubber ring that sits around the bottom of it between the lock plate and the flash metal plate.
Thanx Frank;I think I may invest in some workshops in the of season. May I need to learn from more photographers shooting the same system. I feel like I did when I first moved to Japan and couldnt speak a lick of Japanese but so wanted to be there...Strange anology but....Andy
My new 580II is doing the same thing, but only on my backup camera and only occasionally. It drops back into TTL mode (Not E-TTL) and doesn't go off. This usually happens in portrait orientation when there's a little stress on the mount.
The pins don't protrude as far out of the flash as they did on the old ones. Grrrr.
The pins don't protrude as far out of the flash as they did on the old ones. Grrrr.
QUOTE(Steve Madden @ July 24 2007, 08:35 AM)
My new 580II is doing the same thing, but only on my backup camera and only occasionally. It drops back into TTL mode (Not E-TTL) and doesn't go off. This usually happens in portrait orientation when there's a little stress on the mount.
The pins don't protrude as far out of the flash as they did on the old ones. Grrrr.
The pins don't protrude as far out of the flash as they did on the old ones. Grrrr.
I called Canon today and the rep told me that there were no such problems reported. He suggested that since Im a CPS member, that I ship my body and new flash to Canon for test and Eval. I am thinking to just return the flash and try a new one but it works so well with the 30D. I also dont have time to play with shipping gear. I have two weddigns in D.C./Maryland this week and one in Miami, next week.
Dunno.....
We had the same problem the first time out with the fancy 580ex II. They looked like they where working (flashing) but the exposure was totally wacked. This was on a 5d. Later, after we screwed up about 20 minutes of shooting we jiggled the connection an re-seated the flash and we were back in business.
The first thing we do if the flash starts acting stupid is to take them off and put them back on the camera.
Also, we really hate the not having a switch for the master/slave option.
If everything is working, we power the camera flash and a 550ex TTL slave with Lumedyne battery packs and shoot real fast.
The TTL is amazing.
Jerry
The first thing we do if the flash starts acting stupid is to take them off and put them back on the camera.
Also, we really hate the not having a switch for the master/slave option.
If everything is working, we power the camera flash and a 550ex TTL slave with Lumedyne battery packs and shoot real fast.
The TTL is amazing.
Jerry
QUOTE(Jerry Schmidt @ July 25 2007, 08:09 AM)
We had the same problem the first time out with the fancy 580ex II. They looked like they where working (flashing) but the exposure was totally wacked. This was on a 5d. Later, after we screwed up about 20 minutes of shooting we jiggled the connection an re-seated the flash and we were back in business.
The first thing we do if the flash starts acting stupid is to take them off and put them back on the camera.
Also, we really hate the not having a switch for the master/slave option.
If everything is working, we power the camera flash and a 550ex TTL slave with Lumedyne battery packs and shoot real fast.
The TTL is amazing.
Jerry
The first thing we do if the flash starts acting stupid is to take them off and put them back on the camera.
Also, we really hate the not having a switch for the master/slave option.
If everything is working, we power the camera flash and a 550ex TTL slave with Lumedyne battery packs and shoot real fast.
The TTL is amazing.
Jerry
Thanx Jerrry
The images are awesome off the 30d so Im going to demand a fix ASAP. I know my MKIIn is working fine so they need to get this fixed.
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