Here's a Mac link

Here's a PC link

Swan man showed me some cool new features it has including the ability to sort your presets! This is huge!

Rock on!
DJ

Grassy ass! I was just coming to post these links!

the only reason dj beat you to it, is that he doesn't have a 'mandy' to play with....

or maybe he does...

Hot DAWG!

There are more bugs in this thing than a NYC apartment. I'd actually consider holding off a bit. I may go back to 1.0 tonight.

Oh dear!!

of course i just downloaded 1.1 and then saw more of this thread.

I was just thinking the same thing!

So, download it right now or hold off a bit?

Thanks!!

hold off.....

no problems for me so far. Edited a wedding, first draft though.

You must be on winbloze --- the mac version rocks!

Mine is just one of a LOT of bugs people are reporting.

Can't Update Metadata in 1.1
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc4487c/0

Trouble after Installing 1.1
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc448b8

1.1 Broke my library
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc44857/0

Can't see edit icons in filmstrip
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc448a3/0

so how do you rearrange your presets in your order? whats the masking, and the spray can all about? Where to get the exact info on the new additions? Thanks

AND auto sync doesnt seem to work - not that ANYTHING I do in this piece of crap release is working.

Tough luck, Matt. I'm sorry you were the OSP Guinea Pig

Thanks for taking one for the team...

(and shame on DJ!)

haha nah - it's all good. I actually really LOVE the program. I just freaking HATE buggy releases.

This one is ... bad so far. REALLY bad. And I'm not one to criticize people & programs & stuff I like much.

Hmm. I've been using all the betas on Mac for months without any of those difficulties.. My "refine" feature isn't quite working right, but I haven't actually installed the final build yet either (been too busy! hahah).

Sorry you're having problems, Matt. Have you tried nuking everything (preferences, whatever vestigial windoze stuff is installed) and doing a fresh install?

Here's where we're at with the new features and known issues:


New in Lightroom 1.1
Lightroom 1.1 provides many new features and enhancements to existing features the most notable of which are listed below.

General

Template Browsers in the Slideshow, Print, and Web module as well as the Preset Browser in the Develop module are now hierarchical, allowing for a one-level deep hierarchy. Folders can be created by choosing the Folder drop-down option below the preset or template name field.
The "breadcrumbs" text at the top of the filmstrip now changes the highlighted item based on context. For example, if a command in Library will affect all selected photos, the text "5 selected" is highlighted instead of the filename. In output modules, the highlighted section indicates which photos are being included in the output of the module.
The filmstrip filter now includes additional icons to show only negative(master) photos or virtual copies
When importing from removable media, Lightroom provides the option to eject-after-import.
Lightroom now supports all of the available DNG conversion settings:
-File Extension
-JPEG Preview Size
-Image Conversion Method
-Compression
-Embed Original Raw File
Preferences have been separated into global application preferences and catalog-specific settings:
Catalog Specific
-Backup options
-Preview size
-Sequence numbers
-Metadata browser options
-XMP metadata handling
-Optimize Catalog: This command will be useful for larger databases that seem to perform below their initial levels. Optimization is also a part of the upgrade process and provides the most benefit after Lightroom has performed a number of catalog operations. (additions, deletions, changes, etc.)
Additional global preferences
-Default camera raw settings can now be shared with Camera Raw 4.1 and be set on a per camera model, serial number or ISO setting basis
-Store presets with catalog file
-Treat JPEG files with the same name as a neighboring raw file as a separate photo
-Edit externally file naming presets
-Option to read and respect various hierarchical separator formats in the dc:subject keyword field on import
-Additional panel end marks have been included in the interface preferences

Library Module

Option-clicking or right-clicking on a photo will provide a method of directly locating and viewing the image folder in the Library
A Copy Name field is available in the default Metadata panel. This field is blank by default for normal photos, but is set to "Copy 1", "Copy 2", etc. for subsequent virtual copies of that image. This field is available in the naming tokens under the same popup that contains "Original Name" for use when generating filenames on export. It is also searchable with the Find panel.
A virtual copy may be set as the master image using the Photo file menu. The previous master will be set as a virtual copy
The Find panel layout has been improved
The Keyword Stamper tool in the Library toolbar has been replaced by a spray can that be utilized as a general purpose applicator. The spray applicator now allows application of keywords, ratings, flags, labels, develop presets, metadata presets, and rotations. The icon can be used to click-and-drag to apply the specified content to multiple photos at one time.
An option-click or right-click on a folder in the Library provides a new "Synchronize Folder" command that can check for new images in the folder, check for missing photos and scan for metadata updates.
Catalog Export provides the ability to select a subset of a current catalog(any active selection) and create a new independent catalog file including only the selected images. The exported catalog has the option to include the master files or negatives and the previews associated with the files. A common use of an exported catalog would be to export a portfolio collection from a desktop computer to be used on a laptop computer for a lightweight portable presentation catalog.
Catalog import provides photographers with the opportunity to merge existing catalogs of different or identical images. A common use of catalog import would be to merge a set of photographs temporarily stored on a laptop with a larger set of images stored on a separate computer.
Catalog import conflict: If the file sets overlap during a catalog import, the import dialog offers several options for "Existing Photos."

Metadata

Develop snapshots are now stored in XMP
Metadata can now be updated in the file using the Command(ctrl) + S shortcut
Hierarchical keywords are now stored in XMP. Keywords removed in other editors will not be removed from Lightroom. Keyword synonyms and other keyword export options will only be applied when you export from Lightroom and not to the XMP of your negative
The Metadata menu has a new option to update previews along with metadata in DNG. This menu will operate on your selection in the grid view
The copyright status field has been added to the metadata panel
Metadata presets can now be viewed, renamed, deleted, and updated in the Edit Presets dialog.
The metadata browser now shows ISO, Aperture, Shutter Speed, and Label
The metadata panel now has "action" arrow buttons next to a selection of data fields.

Develop module

Clarity: New Control available in the Basic panel. Clarity adds depth to an image by increasing local contrast. When using this setting, it is best to zoom in to 100% or greater. To maximize the effect, increase the setting until you see halos near the edge details of the image, and then reduce the setting slightly.
Sharpening Improvements:
Additional controls available in the Detail panel. The zoom level must be set to 100% or greater in order to view the effects of these controls.
-Amount: Adjusts edge definition. Increase the Amount value to increase sharpening. A value of zero turns off sharpening. In general, set Amount to a lower value for cleaner images. The adjustment locates pixels that differ from surrounding pixels based on the threshold you specify and increases the pixels’ contrast by the amount you specify. Press Alt (Windows) or Option (Mac OS) while dragging this slider to view the sharpening on a grayscale preview.
-Radius: Adjusts the size of the details that sharpening is applied to. Photos with very fine details may need a lower radius setting. Photos with larger details may be able to use a larger radius. Using too large a radius will generally result in unnatural looking results. Press Alt (Windows) or Option (Mac OS) while dragging this slider to preview the radius effect on edge definition.
-Detail: Adjusts how much high-frequency information is sharpened in the image and how much the sharpening process emphasizes edges. Lower settings primarily sharpen edges to remove blurring. Higher values are useful for making the textures in the image more pronounced.
-Masking: Controls an edge mask. With a setting of zero, everything in the image receives the same amount of sharpening. With a setting of 100, sharpening is mostly restricted to those areas near the strongest edges. Press Alt (Windows) or Option (Mac OS) while dragging this slider to see the areas to be sharpened (white) versus the areas masked out (black).
You can now load a snapshot or history state into the Before view by ctrl-clicking or right-clicking it in the panel.

Slideshow module

The Slideshow module now uses a different mechanism to present the slideshow in order to generate smoother transitions.
By default, slideshows will now only include the selected photos if there is more than one photo selected (this is a return of behavior that was used in beta release of LR 1.0). There are now menu items

Print module

There is now a checkbox next to Print Resolution. Turning off this checkbox will cause the native resolution of the photo to be used given that it falls within the range of 72 and 480 ppi.
There is an available overlay on the print preview that shows the dimensions of the photo inside each cell (in the print units) and if a specific resolution is not being used the resolution each photo will be printed at.

Web module

The following options are now included:
Include all metadata with files generated from Web, or to elect to minimize the metadata to just the content of the Copyright field
Only use selected photos
Turn off section borders
Apply drop-shadows and photo borders


Known Issues
The following are known issues in Lightroom 1.1:

Once Lightroom 1.1 has been installed on a Mac, the Lightroom 1.0 installer will not replace Lightroom 1.1 without further user intervention. (To install Lightroom 1.0, delete the file /Library/Receipts/Adobe\ Photoshop\ Lightroom.pkg and /Applications/Adobe Lightroom.app. Then reinstall Lightroom 1.0.)
Printing on Vista using the Manage by Printer color management setting may produce unsatisfactory results. It's recommended that specific printer profiles be selected for that setting.
Within the web module on Windows, the preview HTML display does not preview the selected rollover cell color selected. The final HTML output will present the correct color on rollover.
Lightroom may be unable to see or import raw files directly from attached Canon cameras on Windows XP. Please visit Canon’s technical support web site for information on this known driver issue or use a dedicated card reader to import files captured with Canon cameras.
Lightroom may experience decreased performance when virus software is monitoring Lightroom’s disk or database activity.
Lightroom may experience decreased performance when the preference to “Update XMP Automatically” is turned on in the preferences.
Adobe applications must be updated with the Camera Raw 4.1 plug-in order to ensure compatibility with Lightroom 1.1 develop module settings. The following products will support the Camera Raw 4.1 plug-in: Photoshop CS3, Photoshop Elements 4.01 for Mac, Photoshop Elements 5.0 and Premiere Elements 3.0 for Windows
If the Convert to DNG command returns the error: “An error occurred while converting file image.raw” please check to make sure that the volume the image is located on is not locked or read-only.
Transparent Identity Plates are not rendered properly when web galleries are previewed in Lightroom using Internet Explorer 6.
The date format shown at the top of the import dialog may display English formatting in the Japanese version of Lightroom 1.1 for the Mac. Please note that the date format is set in the Format section of International settings. Date format is not linked to the current system language.(1465684)
It is not possible to drag and drop TIFF, PSD or PDF files onto the Graphical Identity Plate area of the Lightroom 1.1 Windows Identity Plate window. PSD and PDF Identity plates are not currently supported in Lightroom on Windows and TIFF files must be selected using the Locate command. (1467022)
Photoshop Lightroom User Guide Corrections
Chapter 1, Page 79 “Tone a grayscale photo.” Correction of Item 3: “Set the Balance slider to balance the effect between the Highlight and Shadow sliders. Positive values increase the effect of the Shadow sliders; negative values increase the effect of the Highlight sliders.”
Chapter 4, Page 30 “Compare photos in the Library module.” The selected icon has changed to include a cross line and more closely resembles an “X.”
Chapter 4, Page 34 “Set library view options for Loupe view .“ Show info overlay is not displayed by default
Chapter 4, Page 37 “Rotate photos in the Library module.” The toolbar pop-up menu is not available in the Compare view.
Chapter 4, Page 42 “Update photos changed by another application.” The behavior described in the referenced section only applies if the Lightroom preference is set to automatically write changes to XMP.
Chapter 4, Page 47 “Tips for working with stacks.” The following statement is incorrect: “Keyword tags applied to a collapsed stack are applied to all photos in the stack.” Keyword tags applied to a collapsed stack only apply to the top photo.
Chapter 4, Page 48 “Expand and collapse stacks.” The tip regarding navigation of a closed stack view is incorrect. Close stacks may not be navigated in the loupe view using the navigation arrows.

I'm going to take it out completely & reinstall it tomorrow. Here's the msg I just posted on Adobe Forums:

Matt Antonino - 10:02pm Jun 26, 2007 Pacific


This is the suck. I've had at least 3 DIFFERENT problems with LR 1.1 in the last 3 hours.

1) Tab to remove palettes wipes LR completely out sometimes. Seems random and I can't figure out why. Only happens on horizontal images, whatever THAT means.

2) Auto sync has crashed me at least twice. I think this one happens when I push ctrl then auto sync, press sync again (it goes back to normal) then I try to sync a preset or anything - I selected say "contrast" and it threw me out of LR - no error, no warning.

3) WHERE THE HECK ARE THE STUPID DEFAULT PRESETS?!? They aren't in Develop Settings and a search didn't find them! WTF!? AND I can't delete the folder for Lightroom presets? What kind of crap is that to give us control and NOT GIVE US CONTROL?

OYE.

I've been doing vid tutorials since LR beta 3 - my next tutorial may be on how to UNINSTALL LR 1.1 and reinstall 1.0 This release shouldn't have been.

Swan rocks thanks for that. i am still enjoying it the hell out of the new version. I did have it crash on me once, but other than that it's awsome.

Heres a question, I want to use the Print module to make the gallery print, but I want to send it to my lab. Is there not a way to export this so I can send it to a lab. I know I can create the same thing in CS3, but I like one of their fonts, that I don't have.

Sorry Matt that you are having so much trouble.

Tried printing to a PDF?

Kelby has said that he is going to release a LR 1.1 addendum for his book:

http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2007/archives/293

so should I install now? or wait a week or so for those bugs to be fixed...or do you think that those bugs are just very isolated?

Maybe a little off topic but oh well. Swan, can you or anybody else tell me why ACR and LR have done away with the Auto check boxes for the exposure sliders. In Camera Raw I had presets that were based on toggling those check boxes on and off individually, and it seems like it would be so nice to have that in Lightroom. Anybody have some input on this? Just curious. Thanks,

Ron

Thanks guys!

I'd heard this was just a minor tweak for vista and Mk III users, so I clicked "ignore" when prompted yesterday. Glad I saw this!

OSP to da' rescue!

I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade. This is well beyond a minor bug-fix release. Not sure why they even called it 1.1. The ability to organize your presets is huge. The exporting and importing of catalogs is huge. You will love the new Clarity slider (wow!). The new sharpening is light-years ahead of 1.1. You can snapshot any phase of development and it's stored is XMP.

In the library mode, you can switch virtual copies to be the master now -- that's sweet.

You have a spray can that can copy/paste MANY different things (this thing rocks).

I haven't experienced any problems.

$.02

Ronnie,

In LR, when you go to make a preset, there's a checkbox at the top (just under where you're naming it) called "Auto Tone." This is your exposure adjustment.

Hope this helps.

I think he's talking about the individual check boxes for each slider. I like to set just one slider to auto (brightness) and leave the rest off. What LR has I call the 'Auto Bomb' and it's rarely useful.

Dude yea!!! Me too! I had to have some custom coding done on my latest release of the brilliant settings to individually adjust each of those parameters... My stud friend Chris Humphreys showed how to do it in Bridge CS3 but haven't heard of the LR way yet... Oh Master Swan??? Enlighten us young grasshoppers as to why they'd axe those?

1) This seems fine over here. I tried to simulate the problem by having all landscape oriented images and cycling through the Tab button. I hit it really fast too just to crash it on purpose but nada.

2) No problems with this.

3) My default presets are there and it even organized various ones for me in each folder. Neat-O!

What OS are you running? I'm on a PC using XP Professional SP2. Downloaded Lightroom 1.1 this morning and has been using it since.

The only prob is...what the heck is "Clarity" under the Presense section in the Basic tab? In fact, what the heck is "Presense"?! I guess back to reading

So do we read the "help" in LR to understand the features, or is there an external document that explains the new features?

-TM

the help page isnt that helpful really is it...
all I found is that if you bam clarity up to 100, it makes the bride look like shes on crack.

cool tool when used in moderation tho isn't it?
well I think it is

Clarity is just a local contrast adjustment. Anyone who's used sharpening on like 40/20/0 (I think? wow I don't photoshop anything anymore!) has used this - it's just a "sharpening contrast" and works great in moderation.

You may be right, but I think it actually adds some drop-shadow type effects around edges of high contrast--so it may not just be sharpening. It's pretty cool on some photos..

Another dissapointment from Adobe. A buggsy upgrade and hardly a major one. I expected real Library functionality... What do I get? just a change of names from "Library" to "Catalog" (Just as when they changed from "Shoot" to "Folder") All fuss no substance.

About the only thing I saw that is really an improvement is the fact that now LR starts faster. LR 1.0 was sluggish once you got more than ten weddings in it Library....(And I run it on a MACPRO 3.oghz with 4gig of memory).

I have never seen (maybe since the release of Vista) so many complaints of bugs about a update that suppose to solve bugs!

Where is the dual display support? Where is the ability to export "projects" from laptop to deskto as we were able to do in Beta 4? When are we going to get a more robust, less fractmented library module? for sure LR has a lot of potential and some very nice features, but I expected more...Will see rhat happens in V. 1.5. I hope there is some real substance then.

Dude, you can export. Did you even look at the file options? "more robust, less (fragmented) library module" doesn't mean anything. What, specifically, does the library module not do that you assume it should?As for sluggish.. I'm running on a first gen old Mac Book Pro (2.16 2mb ram -- my new laptop shows up on Friday! muhahahah). I have 15,000 images in my library and things are just peachy. I'm able to work on sorting/selecting images even when I'm away form the drive that contains all the originals (love that feature) and when I plug back in to the drive, everything syncs up fine (no need to have 2 libraries).Not sure what you're bitching about, really. _I'm_ the one who called it a major upgrade (some of the new features are pretty groovy), Adobe calls it a .1 upgrade. How is it buggy? Did you not read the list of enhancements?I agree (as does everyone) about dual displays. We had it in early betas of 1.1, but decided it wasn't working well enough and didn't want to hold up the release. Trust me, it's coming. But other than that... Posts like this are disappointing because, like you complain about, it's all fuss and no substance. Big dramatic sweeps without any facts backing them up.KThey didn't ask my permission when they removed the single snaps on each adjustment. Sorry, guys.

hehehe i'll second that!

UGH.

I hate being wrong even more than I hate bad products. I have narrowed down the source of my Lightroom issues to my computer needing a bigtime fix. Apparently 1.0 was chugging along doing its thing but as soon as I upgraded, it caught bits of the upgrade in the troubled disk areas and I was down for the count.

So - there are apparently a lot of users still experiencing database issues. Please check the Adobe support forums for Lightroom before upgrading. However much I hate to admit to being "wrong" - some of the Lightroom troubles were my own. I would upgrade after reading the support forum.

I do love lightroom and HAPPILY report that now that it is working on my computer, it's FLYING through an import! I forgot how fast LR is when it works right! I'm glad my puter bit enough to need fixing!

Working great on my Mac! Kevin, I wish you could provide a little more detail in your posts!

See, David Jay agrees with me, why not Adobe. Where the heck is the complaint department for Adobe, maybe we can rally together and get this changed. Who's with me!?!?......Anybody..... ....anyone at all?

Thanks to all... I've upgraded my desktop and no problem so far, about to update my lappy now. Hey to me if they even fix one thing I'm a happy camper. Now if there's only a way to transfer what I've edited from laptop to desktop keeping the history in tact so that I can step backwards or reset. Anyone know?

Kevin, under LR 1.0 I had over 20k images (RAW and some PSDs) and whenever I started LR 1.0 it would tyake literarly about 2 to 5 minutes to show up the library. I have heard that experience by many others and was admitted publicly by the LR team in one of their podcasts. I also experience some sluginnesh while doing corrections but nothing major. But really, no big, still a very nice piece software and for many the right tool for their workflow. I am glad that in version 1.1 they apparantly have dealt with that.

How it is bugsy?...men, just listen to all the forums people complaining. I personally haven't found any major problems yet... But, honestly, I am migrating back to Aperture. It Library just works better for me. I just had high hopes for v. 1.1. Maybe a way to stay in LR camp because I really like the way the Develop module is layout.

Yes, I did read the list, I downloaded the PDF. But I don't think it really matters if it is called a version 1.1 or 1.5 or 2.0. I am just glad they are working on improving it. (In my opinion, it should have been 1.5)

I guess their solution to the exporting project question wasd the the ability to export catalogs and opening diferent catalogs without changes to the preferences. But don't you think is a half solution? or, can you integrate "Catalogs"? I haven't seen that. Does the xport catalog creates a neat package of images and the info contained in the catalog? If that is the case, sure is better than before.

I think most of the changes were performance upgrade which are welcome, But, the bottom line, LR is a great product and I am looking forward to further changes.

As far as the database, I have to say it's FLYING now. I have had problems with more than 10k images in the past so I can say I KNOW what that feels like. 1.1 doesn't use the same structure right? They moved away from sqlite - it feels like a *real* speed increase. Importing is faster, editing is faster and the database doesn't freeze, hold or blow up at all for me so far. I've added 10k images back just to test it.

Couple of ways... You can export the shoots you want to transfer (just right-click on the folder in library mode). This is what you want to do if you have a library on your laptop that is different from the one on your desktop. Then import that exported library from your desktop.

If the library on your laptop has everything your desktop one does (except for newer shoots), then you can just replace the library on your desktop with the one on your laptop.

You'll want to move the images from your laptop to your desktop, too. Just drag the folder onto your desktop machine (network them together or connect the laptop to the desktop as a firewire disk, whatever).

Then when you launch lightroom on the desktop, it will wonder where those pictures are (the folder will be red). just double-click on the red folder, point it to wherever you drug the photos on your desktop machine, and it will sync up. Then you can use the lightroom folder manager (in library mode) to move the folder in with your other shoots/pictures or however you want to keep things organized.

(laughing) I love it. You bitch about how buggy the program is like you have first-hand experience with it letting you down. Now you tell us that you've not had any trouble with yours, but other people on the forums have bitched... Maybe none of them have problems either? hahahah

It's not about what they call it. You said there were no improvements other than fluff. I asked if you'd read the list becuase there were a LOT of improvements--especially for a .1 release (which are normally reserved for bug fixes).



You can export it with previews, you can move the images or leave them in their original location, you will have your history with all your changes to all the images. I think you're easily swayed by other's opinions. You decided it was buggy becuase you read it on a forum. You decided you couldn't export without even looking at the software.



Maybe it's the language barrier, but I sure get confused reading your posts! Before you talked about how disappointed you were, that it was all fluff, that it was buggy, that you've never seen so many complaints, etc. Now it's a great product and you're looking forward to further changes (but you're switching to Aperture).

I like you man, you're fluid!

Complaining gone viral! lol

great!!!

Isn't that the nature of complaining?

Kevin... you were right... (honestly.)

I must admit I was wrong in my initial assesment of the 1.1 update of Lightroom. I will agree now that it is a "major" and most welcome upgrade for Lightroom. It made a very good tool better.

I also apologize if I came out to strong or if I offended anyone. Not my intention. I was just venting my initial frustration of not seeing some of the stuff in my wish list, and Kevin, you were right, I didn't take the time to look at the thing before speaking about it.

But, someone was nice and patient enough and took the time to explain to me some of the most important improvements done to Lightroom and how they actually work. For sure the performance improvement and the ability to export and import folders as catalogs are most welcome.

The main reason I am using Aperture is because it flows better into my workflow and has some unique tools that I actually use. I was using lightroom because I used a G4 but I missed some of the Aperture functionalities (loupe, export projects, Light table, smart albums, book feature, the vault, among others.) I was just hoping to see some of those implemented in Lightroom because I believe it will make it a better tool and may have persuade me not spend an additional $300 on Aperture. But I bought a machine made to run Aperture and I love it. It is just the right tool for me.

Trust me when I say I am not a LR basher by any means. I like the thing. I own the thing. I use the thing. I just don't want to get tangle (again) on a LR vs. Aperture debate. Is does not do any good to anyone.

So... I admit I was wrong. period. (not the first nor the last time, I am sure.) I just wanted to clear up the air.

system performance on my PC is degraded when I try to work with 1.1. Utilization is very high, displays are very slow. Anyone else having this trouble? I am afraid I have to uninstall the update just to work.

Yes, I admit, I use a PC. Don't hate me. Thanks.