I have heard from 2 people they have recieved their Mark III's.
They are selling their Mark II's.

I have a Canon 20D
With 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8 IS, and 50 1.4

I am thinking of picking up a good used Mark IIN or do a new Canon 5D bundle with 24-105 4.0, adding the 16-35 2.8II, and sellingthe 24-70 2.8.
I would love the weather sealing on the Mark IIN but I think the sensor is the same as my 20D.

Or is the price worth going for the Mark III and stay where I am at on my lenses. Possibly add 16-35II later.

Any thoughts on the 24 1.4 or 35 1.4 over the 16-35 2.8.

Any help or input would be helpful.

Troy,

The IIN is so much more than weather sealing!

The sensor is definitely not the same, it's a 1.3 crop vs the 1.6 on the 20D. The pixel count is comparable, but that's all.

Why are looking to upgrade (other than the hope for some screaming deals)? THAT will determine what best fits your needs. If it's AF performance or all weather shooting, then the III is your best bet with the IIN close behind. Is it pixel count and the need for wider angles? If so, then the 5D would probably be better, and leave some room in the budget to keep your 20D for the added length with your 70-200.

Steve
Thanks for the thoughts.
The Mark IIN looks tempting with all of them being posted as the Mark III arrives.
Is the ISO perfomance a little better on the 1.3 IIN vs the 1.6 on the 20D?

Troy

Theoretically, yes. Since the 1D has the same number of sensor sites on a larger area there is the potential for those sensor sites to be larger, gathering more light leading to better high ISO performance. In reality, the difference probably isn't very noticable.

Those shooting side-by-side should be able to answer this better.

Hey Troy,
Long time man. Anyway, I spoke with a Canon rep and he pointed me to the Canon white pages that you can download. The advancements in low light sensitivity are the reason we are waiting for the III. Apparently it blows the 2N out of the water and I love the 2N. It's what I rent for every shoot. It's been my bread and butter. How is it that you know people with III's? I keep getting told it's not out yet. I can't find anyone who has one. Do you know how they got it? Regardless, take a night and just sit down with the advanced technical data from the Canon site and compare the 2 cameras. The III kills the 2 all the way around. It's funny cause here were going to get this camera, and for what appears to be all the reasons others are getting it, we're not getting it. Like the 10 frames a second? I think I've only actually used the 8.5 frames a second on the IIN once and even then it was a waste. Bu the seals, the low light, low noise those are my key points.

Mark

I can confirm at least 1 other III arriving.

its out!

Can you bring it over to my house when you get it? I'll buy you dinner. Tempting isn't it. McDonalds? In N Out? Huh? Come on?!?! Will you tell us when you get it and post images? And can I like be your friend and stuff?

To me, it all comes down to image and color quality straight out of the camera. The full frame sensor and low light capabilities are just a bonus. I'm sure the III improves upon it's predecessors, but for me, the 5D is unbeatable. Especially now that it's only $2799. For wedding shooters, (or at least for me) weather sealing, fps and all the new MkIII gizmos cater to the everyday sports shooter.

With the glass you mentioned in your post, the 5D would be an awesome choice. Don't waste your money on the 24-105. Keep the three you have, get a 5D, and spend the money you'll save from the MkIII and get an 85 1.8, a 28 1.8, and your set.

I played with the MkIII at WPPI this year, and it's indeed an impressive looking camera. But for the things that are important to me as a wedding shooter, I'm sticking with the 5D.

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