http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMbww-nCVQg

You'd like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib0Tll3sGB0...ted&search=

It frightens me that my kids will be friends with these kids. And the parents are actually encouraging it?

And where does a 2 year old get an attitude like that anyway? I've got to wonder what she's been watching, who she's been listening to, and why the mindless parent behind the camera allowed it. Isn't she supposed to protect this child?

Has the whole world actually gone stupid?


Some of those are actually cute seeing how the kid mind works, but it so proves that they are sponges and they pick up EVERYTHING, and parents still expose them to so much heavy stuff that is so far beyond thier abillity to understand. It's no wonder an entire generation is loosing it's place and all respect for anything that's ever come before them.

Kevin, I do agree that it's pretty scary and kinda sad.

But I do still think it's funny... no question about that.

Seriously??????

Jeeez, come on people. When a two-year-old says "ass" we should worry about her future, talk about the world going downhill and call her parents "mindless"????

Is there an "eyes-rolling" emoticon??? Oh, yes ... here we go :

It's hard not to laugh about this. I can see where it is obviously funny. But who in the heck would encourage their child to cuss and then post it on the internet for everyone to see! That's ridicoulous! Imagine the mouth when they get to be like 12!

I've seen this before. Its cute and sad at the same time.


Quick request - I'm not sure if we can on this forum, but would you pretty please mind changing the title of this thread to remove the f'ing. It makes me a little stressed out to read it when searching. Not trying to start an argument, just a request.

Thanks! Cute video.

Bethany

you're kidding right? call me crazy but I'm with Kevin on this one. sure it's cute and all but why on earth would you teach your kids words like that? Do you really want your kid going to kindergarten saying "he/she is going to kick someone's ass" Seriously, think about it. What kind of parent are you if you are teaching your kid these things or wouldn't be bothered if your kid said that.

yes... I agree it's funny and kinda cute but I wouldn't think it was so funny if it were my kid.

I agree with Kevin.

This is terribly sad - my sister was like this with her children (they are all teens now) and every single one of them is completely messed up. Again, when we throw away a moral standard we get this nonsense. And people think it's funny. Sad.

It's just a word ... and it's one I'm sure you've said more than a few times. No, I don't teach my kids to say so-called "bad" words, but it says NOTHING about how they're going to grow up or how good of a parent I am if they do say something they shouldn't.

And NO, it doesn't make me a bad parent to think you're all rediculously overreacting. I'm a DAMN good parent, thank you (oh, my! I said damn - and I put it in ALL CAPS!)

Come on people, let's worry about things that really need worrying about. This is just silly.




I'm gonna have to stop reading this thread.

Very classy! Can you identify that accent? Makes it less surprising

Thank you. I'm not a parent but sheesh. Its just a word and I'm sure she'll forget it just as quick as she learned it. Kids pick up bad words. It doesn't mean the world is going to crap. (The worlds going to crap because of other things. )

I think Dori said it best "If you never let anything happen to them, then NOTHING will every happen to them."

Again, not a parent. Just an opinion.

I guess I'm from the camp that believes that kids are influenced MOST by their parents. Again, call me crazy but if I'm at the playground with my nieces and I hear some other kid cursing I immediately question the parenting ability of his parents. why? because you have the most influence on your kids.

You can't protect them from everything and of course it wouldn't be good even if you could but you have to teach them right from wrong and if you think it's okay for a 2 or 3 year old to be running around cursing, than that IS wrong.

Would you feel that same way if your kid was dropping the F bomb? hmm... I bet not. Yes, it's just a word but if my kid (don't have any yet) ever cursed at that age you can bet I wouldn't be saying... "oh.. it's just a word"

My opinion......FWIW

She's a very little girl! NOT a performing monkey. She looks to her parents and elders for 'example' and guidance, and she will do absolutely anything to please the people she loves, and especially to amuse them. Her message in this is...not only is it OK to swear...it reaps great rewards...it makes Mummy laugh and smile...and that has to be a good thing in a little tot's eyes...doesn't it?

I actually don't find this in the least bit amusing. If it was a 'spontaneous' capture of a little one saying something she shouldn't...followed by an appropriate response, THAT might be funny. But this seems to be a bit of a 'party trick'...encouraging her to say it over and over...and then they go and post it on YouTube?

I'm no Saint. I swear...I actually really like swearing....and of course my young kids have overheard occasional slip-ups and repeated things. It's funny and shocking at the same time, and it's always met with strong disapproval (and guilt) ...and often a supreme effort NOT to laugh. I don't see this as a golden opportunity for my 15 minutes of fame on the internet though!!!!

Annie

A house w/o a solid foundation will not last nor will it stand the tests of time.

Anyone who thinks that this is no big deal needs to realize that ALL words have meaning.
Just because she may not comprehend its full meaning doesn't mean it's not bad.

I am a parent, and we don't speak this way in our home, especially in front of our kids. And we are complimented daily on how good and kind and well mannered our kids are.

Over time we have eroded the morals and teachings of our previous generations, and look at the state of things in our world. Cussing and bad attitudes fuel selfish pride, which leads to rivalries, which lead to fighting and so on... it only takes a tiny acorn to become a great oak tree.

I don't think there is anything funny when people celebrate the robbing of a child's innocence and then put it on the internet for everyone to see. And teaching her to say butt is no better.

What is wrong with teaching the kids to say "I can beat up the monster"
Is there some kind of more profound and life enriching experience by saying profanity and teaching an innocent child to do the same?

Call me antiquated and "not with the times", but I choose to not rob my kids of their innocence. Such language has no place in my house and with my family.

Oh, the joys of not having kids and not knowing what it's like to have REAL worries about them.





Funny, I get those compliments all the time, too.

is this one cute too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9E2xmKEBrA

Robbing them of their innocence??

Could this thread have gotten any more rediculous??

Sarah,

did you make this video?
Is this your daughter?
Do you do this to your kids?

If not, then I can understand why you get compliments on your kids.

You seem really defensive here and I would really like to understand why.
It seems as if you're sitting on both sides of the fence here.

the only ridiculousness of this thread is posts from people who don't see that children's innocence is precious and not to be taken lightly by saying "oh... it's just a word"

I'm dumbfounded that you can have that attitude. what would you do if your 2 or 3 year old started dropping the F bomb? laugh?


Of course there are other things that are WAY more important with parenting but that doesn't mean that teaching good ethical and moral skills aren't important either.

Haha, no this isn't my daughter and I didn't make that video. I do have a really cute video of my daughter screaming Twinkle Twinkle Little Star on YouTube. It's gotten a lot of comments

I'm defensive 'cause I really think it's rediculous to talk about parents being BAD because they giggle when their kids say bad words. All these posts about how the world is going to hell because of videos and kids and parents like these??

Our country is at war, there are people dying of AIDS, gang members still shoot each other for the stupidest reasons ever and people think THIS is what is bringing the world down?? It's so so so stupid.

My kids are very well behaved and polite, but yes, my daughter has repeated some stuff I have said. It doesn't make me a bad parent and it doesn't mean she's gonna grow up without morals or values. I always correct her (after I giggle) and life goes on. There are so many things to worry about and this kind of thing is frustrating to me.

Seriously, though, I gotta stop reading this thread. It's bringin' me down to know this is what people are really worried about.

Let's all teach our kids how good it is to argue on the Internet during business hours when we should be growing our business and helping our families thrive.

Haha

Fridays are my days off ... and the kids are busy in the other room watching pornos and Quinten Tarantino movies

Not if you're still hanging out with a bunch of arguing photographers.

I havent watched the video, but i agree the title really bothers me. Could you not use Gods name like that in a title. I believe He deserves more respect than that and it really bothers me.

we all have a difference in opinion about what is funny what is not. what we teach our kids etc, but I dont belive i should have to see the name with F-ing and God in it.

just my opinion for what its worth

julie b

Are you serious?!

You think that parents choosing to teach their kids good moral, ethical, and/or Christian values is ridiculous?

I'll give you an example. There is a family in our neighborhood that has a kid about 6-7 years old. You would not believe the mouth on that boy. Heck, he even pulled his pants down in the street where my daughter and other girls were playing. He constantly calls all the kids he doesn't like names and your f-this and f-stupid. He bullies kids around, etc. etc.

Children's innocence is sacred. It's one of those things that is real whether one believes it or not.

Edit: I didn't see your response above before I submitted mine. I removed a comment above where I stand corrected.

How is teaching your children respect of themselves and others (by not cussing or speaking in a derrogatory way) teaching them to be elitist? Please explain your point here.



Matt - this is exactly what we do.
We teach them to respect each other, and the world around them.
To be proper stewards of this world and our lives - as Christ taught us.

But we are all called to correct others when they make an error. Without correction, we are lost. And this is why the world is the way it is. People stopped correcting and started living as they saw fit.

Jesus said in Matthew 18:
[11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
[12] How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
[13] And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
[14] Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
[15] Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
[17] And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

But just before that he talks of children:
Matt.18
[1] At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
[2] And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
[3] And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[4] Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
[5] And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
[6] But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

And Paul says in Ephesians:
Eph.5
[1] Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
[2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
[3] But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
[4] Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

How can we be followers of God (as dear 'innocent' children) if our parents deprive us of this promise? Paul goes on to talk about the things that prevent us from being followers of God. I bolded the foolish talking because it refers to vain or useless and prophane words.


If everyone feels that the Christian moral code is not of value to our society, then society is already gone and we have been in the falling away of 2 Thess. chapter 2 for a looong time. God help us.

And God bless those of you willing to admit to the truth.
We must fight the good fight of faith on all matters - great or small.

Sarah, thank you for clarifying your stance.
But you are missing the point of why this bothers me (and others) so much.

As parents, we are the compass and direction for our kids.
If we do not teach them the right way, then they will grow up without hope or faith in anything, and that is what brings on the gang fights, the disease, the wars... all of what you brought up are terrible things and are caused by the sin of mankind. So it isn't a little thing to be upset at seeing parents laugh at and video tape their children speaking such profanity.

As I said, a tiny acorn grows into a large oak tree. A little sin goes a looong way.



Matt - you act as if it is wrong to discuss these things.

I am off due to my father-in-law's death - and am helping out around the house.
I was just checking my favorite forum and stumbled upon this thread - due to its profane title.

But even if I was working, standing up for the faith and for children especially is more important than my business. God rewards the works of those who stand for what is good.

And my kids are in homeschool right now - so they are learning how to be good and productive people.

Kids are gonna be kids, they are going to repeat what they hear. Jumping to the conclusion that it's the parents they are copying is a dangerous thing though. Parents whose toddlers cuss are not BAD parents, who knows where they picked it up. I was mortified when my then 3 year old daughter started saying "F**K" after hearing a teenager in the parking lot at the mall say the word. I didn't get mad at her, but calmly corrected her. BUT, I didn't giggle at her or film her either, because that would make her think it was okay to keep doing it (like the girl in this film). The world is not going to hell because a child repeats a bad word, but reinforcing it does a disservice to the child.



I'm afraid it all starts somewhere. This is an extreme example, but I guess not out of the realm of possibility.

Kid repeats a bad word --> mom giggles --kid thinks it must be okay (actions speak louder than words) --> kid teaches it to a friend and the two of them giggle --> grow up a little and say it in class --> teacher is not happy and corrects her --> kid thinks the teacher is crazy because after all Mom thought it funny --> kid loses some respect for teacher --> goes on to lose respect for teachers in general --> thinks school is a total waste of time --> drops out of school

Like I said, total extreme case, but my point is that you never know where something is going to go....so why start it up in the first place?

I hate hearing kids cussing because it shows no respect for those around them. And lack of respect for others leads to all kinds of problems.....some of which you just alluded to --> gangs, spread of disease, war.

I was going to say..."this is just the thin edge of the wedge"....

I guess that sums up what you just said though Johnny.

As a sidenote...you don't have to be religious to think this way! I'm an absolute athiest, and yet morally I completely agree with you Johnny. I guess I just have different reasons, and a different angle of view.

Annie, you are correct in saying that you don't have to be religious.
My Neice and Nephew on my wife's side are great kids. Respectful, honest and hard working.
Their parents divorced a long time ago - both parents do not have faith in God.
Yet their mom was able to raise them well - she did not allow them to live as they saw fit.

She had rules, guidelines, expectations - and she taught them to treat others the way they want to be treated. And has done a wonderful job. But she admits that her rules are all based on Christian, Biblical principles.

To answer my earlier question ... YES, this thread apparently COULD get more rediculous!

Yep...I'd admit to that myself. The old.."do unto others" is the ultimate guide for life! It pretty much sums it up for me! LOL

P.S. Matt...do you have the 'power' (ha ha ha) to change the title of this thread? I imagine Trevor would do it himself, but he's probably not around. 2 members have repsectfully requested it be altered, and I think that's a very fair and reasonable request.

WOW! Is a$$ really that bad a word to say in America because over here I'm almost certain most people wouldn't be that fussed about it? I tend to think, & have noticed when I'm on vacation in the States, the British sadly swear far more than the Americans so maybe we're just so used to hearing swear words that we don't bat an eyelid. Seriously, if a$$ was all kids were saying over here, we'd all be celebrating!

I, unfortunately, tend to swear sometimes and have to edit my posts occassionally coz what we Brits find acceptable here I don't think you guys do so I'm going to take this opportunity to apologize if I've ever offended anyone or if I mistakenly do in the future. For the most part, it's unintentional & I'm trying real hard to keep my bad-butt in line!

then please, as you said you were going to do a few posts ago, stop reading and/or posting in it because IMHO your contributions are the only ridiculous part of this thread.

[sigh]




deeep breaths people... deeeep breaths

it's not about the word. it's the principle behind it. I swear too, but not in front of little kids.

to be honest, if I was the one shooting that video, the first thing I would do is is turn the camera off, calmly talk to my little one about what is and isn't appropriate language and discipline them if it continued.

THEN.....I would go in the other room (where there were no kids) and watch the video with my significant other and LAUGH MY A$$ off. because YES... it's funny... but it's not good to let the kids think it's funny if you don't want them to keep using that language.

Wow this really took off.



Hey, I'd agree it's just a word, and the child certainly isn't scarred for life for having uttered a "bad word".

But it's not about the word. I even cringed when mom said "you should say, kick it's butt". Huh!?!?!?!? That's better????

Whether you're kicking a butt or an ass is not the issue! Why is a _two year old_ defending her territory by kicking anything???



It's more the mindset of the partent that goes along with it. Parenting doesn't start at age 14 when the child is totally out of control. That parents apparently don't consider where this sort of thing leads. Not the words, but the intentions behind them.

A 2 year old should be learning how to play with other children, how to share, how to be humble and with that goes respect for those in charge over them. And that's the real key - respect. It's not about a word.

A child that young should not be going around with this idea that it's good to puff up your ego and chest and "kick it's ass", "beat up", or "cause the failure of" anything else that comes along that she doesn't agree with. That child should be accepting of and respectful toward pretty well everything she confronts in her little world... she's two!

When something bigger comes along that she doesn't understand she needs to respect it, and if anyone is going to kick anything's butt, it better be mom and dad. At two, that child needs to see and respect things bigger and older than herself, and defer to trusting her parents to deal with said bigger threat. Why is it her responsibility as a 2 year old to defend her terratory against things larger than herself that she doesn't understand?

That child shouldn't have to visualize themselves in a conflict with another person (or monster, or parent, or idea) where one person "kicks ass" and the other "gets their ass kicked". That when something she doesn't understands dares to "come in here" treading on what is apparently her territory, her first instinct isn't to be friendly toward it, or seek to understand it, but to immediately engage in conflict with it - and not because it's a "monster" but because it "came in here".

This kid has somehow picked up the idea that when she's met with something she doesn't understand, she should immediately fight it, and the only way she can be "okay" as a person through the experience is if she wins and it looses.

Hmmm...... it's like I've seen that line of thought elsewhere in the world. When confronted with ideas we don't quite understand we need to first get our feathers ruffled that the idea dared to tread on our territory, the solution is to kill it and gain a sense of pride out of the killing of the idea, person, country, political party, or religious belief of the other guy.


We're teaching our kids that it's good to be the biggest and baddest mo-fo, and that's how you really win in this great life they are embarking on - when everyone else looses. And the quickest way to step over someone else while climbing the hill of life is to put them down and disrespect them. And it would appear kids are doing just that.




Exactly. This poor child has somehow been given the idea that you're only okay when everyone else is so defeated that they'll no longer argue with you. It's not about the bad word, but the fact that he sees the need to throw it at other people. Somehow, somewhere, a parent exposed this child to this line of thinking. If you don't like what the other guy thinks, then "f-them", disrespect them, disregard them, insult them, and go on doing and believing whatever you want in complete disregard to the other guy. Hey, it's all about YOU right?

Then one day this kid gets ahold of a gun and realizes the loud bang, bullets, and blood stains send the "f-them" message a little louder than just swear words. The news media will later go on to blame the laws that allowed this child to have a gun, and nobody will drop their jaw and ask "wow........... how did this child get to age 14, and his only method of conflict resolution was to kill those he disagreed with".


So how do you deal with someone different than you who dares to sit at "your table" in the school lunch room? Yea! You kick the person's ass, of course. Forget asking them their name, having a conversation with them where you may learn something about life you didn't know before, seeing them as another person with feelings also, realizing that you can help make that person happy as easily as making them sad. Nope. Screw all that - it's a pride thing. That other kid is at your table and she doesn't belong there, so you do just what your daddy would do, just what the hero on the shoot-em-up-show did, just what your mom encouraged you to do when you were a baby - and you go kick their ass. She should have known better than to sit at *your* table in the lunchroom. As long as the other person gets thier ass kicked, and you're the one doing the ass kicking, then it's all good.

And if the other guy is too big, you still need to win the ass kicking contest, so the obvious solution is that you need a bigger gun.

Yea, I've seen the continuation of this line of thinking someplace else in the world. Not sure where, but I know I've seen this teaching at work.... somewhere.



Sure, kids are confused. I don't blame the kid. That kid said what she said with attitude and conviction. That's been modeled for her someplace. Maybe her daddy thinks he is too small and weak unless he kicks the asses of the people around him, and he's modeled that for this child, or maybe those TV shows mom and dad watch, when she was just playing on her own with her dolls - maybe she's overheard and picked up what she's seeing - some TV character who is faced with conflict and is glamorized as the "good guy" when he kicks ass. Solve the problem with bullets and dramatic explosions, that always works!

What scares me is that parents say "awww... it's just a word." The question that apparently doesn't smack them in the face is "where did my child pick this up?", and "if the source of this continues to guide my child's conflict resolution skills, what kind of person is she going to turn into?"

Parents don't THINK anymore. The world is all screwed up, and all the screwed up stuff started someplace.


If my kid said that, I wouldn't whip out the camera and encourage it. I would say "remember we watched Monsters, remember the big blue harry one. He was funny wasn't he? What do you think happens when someone gets their 'ass kicked'? They probably get hurt huh? Would it be good to hurt the big cuddly blue monster? I thought he was a good guy? Remember at the start of the move, the kids were scared of him, but once they got to know him, he was actually really funny."

It's almost like, when a child says something like this, she's openeing the door for parents to lovingly guide them. Because what she says here won't define who she is in life, but it will define her next step down the path of life.

Kids don't just wake up one day as out of control teenagers, kids at the corner lot don't put down thier baseballs, pick up thier bats, and start beating the crap out of the kids from the next block over just because they live on the next block over, and people don't just wake up one day in charge of armies and deside the best solution to solve a conflict is to bomb the hell out of the other country because if we insult and demoralize our enemies enough, eventually they'll just give up and become our friends.

It's almost like, you really do get further with honey than with vinigar. That you can learn more from respecting and listening to those around you than by slinging f-bombs and insults at them, and that maybe 99% of the worlds state of being 'all screwed up' would be solved if people would start trying to understand eachother instead of flexing their own pride and know-it-all and endlessly seeking to kick eachother's asses, butts, rear-ends, egos, pride, and will to live.

And there in that moment - a mother who should know better and a confused child willing to follow ANY guidance she's given - that's where "changing the world" starts. Not when she's 18 and voting, but when she's 18 months and listening.

THINK PEOPLE!! THINK!!!

Whoa. Get back to work or something...

yipes. leave her alone. she has an opinion too. different doesn't mean bad. You're not going to change her mind in this thread, so lets all practice a little tolerance and move on, eh? judge not lest.. something something...

he thought it was an amusing video and wanted to share it with a community who might think it was amusing as well. If not, then there is no need to drag this out. YOU raise your kids the way YOU feel is appropriate and everyone else will do the same. End of story.

it is funny how you got all fired up on the video, but no one wants to fight about taking the lords name in vein (i.e. the title)

common guys i think you could go at least 3 more rounds on that alone...


Ding Ding LETS GET IT ON

I'm glad someone finally brought this up...



I'm tired of all this arguing, I had to take time off from my work on the African Aids crisis to come settle this argument.

Go to your rooms... You're all grounded!

Thanks Trevor, it's been a while sense we had a thread like this. This could surly go down in the I'm right/You're wrong hall of fame...

Kevin - Well said!

Would someone just compare someone to hitler so we can be done with it?

I thought Kevin would but he treaded on the line. I thought Kawter would when I saw he responded but OH NO. And Cameron has turned over a new leaf. SHANE - quick, compare someone to Hitler.



Wow.

So a 3 y/o swearing is the root of all evil. At least potentially... Good to know - I thought it was drugs, guns and religion/holy wars.

(*stir, stir, stir*)

NO FAIR, they started it!!!!

Matt! You are JUST like Hitler!
How's that?

Matt.. you're just as bad as Hitler... just grow out that beady little mustache and I'd hardly be able to tell the difference. You treat forum databases like Hitler treated the jews.